HELP! 1.6l to 1.8T conversion wiring issues....

[James Dean]

I'm not sure, that is above my head. I am using all donor car gear.

[Coralon]

I am an utter noob when it comes to this kind of stuff but an immo defeat on the ECU would be a good place to start. Possibly get the ecu flashed with an upgrade and an immo defeat at the same time

[Stan]

yeah JD i know what you mean
Easy enough if you are swapping the lot, no compatability issues

Colaron, what you say makes sense, but only the ecu is new so surely vagcom can sort this out....i could well be wrong

other thing is that the car is undrivable, so i cant take it anywhere

i erased learnt values and did the ecu swap sequence that ross tech advise, and still no luck

current fault codes for any gurus out there - suspension is off , so ABS codes are expected:

VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4
Data version: 20110418

Monday,26,September,2011,20:16:43:48399

Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76

Mileage: 229400km/142542miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-018-AGU.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 018 AQ
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D06
Coding: 04000
Shop #: WSC 06313
VCID: 71E2F7D51139

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001
Coding: 03504
Shop #: WSC 01317
VCID: 3E781CE910E7

1 Fault Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
35-00 - -

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 601
Component: 0C AIRBAG VW5 0004
Coding: 12355
Shop #: WSC 01317
VCID: F0E472D19A33

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 805 B
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V01
Coding: 03703
Shop #: WSC 30071
VCID: 254AD3859571

Part No: Ident
Component: Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147
Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 01317
VCID: F0E472D19A33

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1J0 959 799 Q
Component: 4C Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
Coding: 04097
Shop #: WSC 01317
VCID: 4C9C4621565B

Part No: 1J2959802C
Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r

Part No: 1J2959801D
Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r

Part No: 1J4959811C
Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r

Part No: 1J4959812C
Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. HR0002r

No fault code found.

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[James Dean]

I am an utter noob when it comes to this kind of stuff but an immo defeat on the ECU would be a good place to start. Possibly get the ecu flashed with an upgrade and an immo defeat at the same time

Thats the easy way around it but then you don't have an immo. Volkswagen don't exactly have a hard to destroy ignition.

[Coralon]

From the rosstech site...

Before Installing a USED ECU (we'll call it ECU #2) in vehicle, get the ECM coding from the current ECU (we'll call it ECU #1) in the vehicle
[Select]
[01 - Engine]
Write down the 5-digit Soft. Coding
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


Install the USED ECU (ECU #2) in vehicle, (the Immobilizer light will be flashing, that's okay for now)
[Select]
[01 - Engine]
Write down the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number from the "Extra" field. This the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number for ECU#2.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


[17 - Instruments]
Write down the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number from the "Extra" field. This the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number for ECU#1.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


VW/Audi used to give out the 7 digit SKC to vehicle owners but as of 2005 they no longer do. Unless you already have that information, then you will not be able to use these instructions - you will likely need to have your dealer perform this procedure.


Measure the car's battery voltage, it must be 12.5 V or higher.


With the USED ECU (ECU #2) in vehicle, (the Immobilizer light will be flashing, that's okay for now)
[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Login - 11]
[Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]
Enter the 7-digit PIN from ECU #2, Date on which the PIN was GENERATED BY THE DEALER, along with the dealer's Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number
[OK]
[Do-It!]
(You just "introduced" yourself to ECU#2 and the ECU should listen to you since you knew how to login. The ECU is now ready to learn its new home.)


[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 50 in Channel Number
[Read]
[Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]
Enter the 7-digit PIN from ECU#1, Date on which the PIN was GENERATED BY THE DEALER, along with the dealer's Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number
[OK]
[Test]
[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
(You just told ECU#2 that it has a new home, and that it should make friends with the Instrument Cluster.)


Verify that the VIN now displayed in the "Extra" field in the Engine matches matches the VIN now displayed in the "Extra" field in the Instrument Cluster controller.


Turn ignition OFF and then back on within one minute, but do not start vehicle for two minutes
After 2 minutes, start the vehicle


[Select]
[01 - Engine]
Verify that the 5-digit Soft. Coding matches the coding from the old ECU


[Fault Codes - 02]
Clear all DTC's.

The bold bits from above... did you do this?

[Stan]

thought so - perhaps i got it wrong.
I have that cut , pasted and printed out....lol

thanks for your help mate

[Coralon]

Some more info Immobilizer - Ross-Tech Wiki

You definately need these SKC's... from both ecu's by the looks of it. I would be heading to the local dealer and asking real nice if there is any way they can help... remember to take knee pads

[Stan]

sounds like a plan lol

[Stan]

according to the table in the link i dont need an skc for swapping a used ecu..... mine is an immo 2

[Coralon]

If both ECU's are immo2 this looks like the procedure but looks a little light on details.

ECM Matching

Prerequisites:

Battery voltage at least 12.5 V.
Immobilizer II ECM

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Adaption - 10]
Leave channel at "00"
[Read]
[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
[Exit]
Turn ignition OFF for 15 seconds. Start vehicle.

Notes:

For cars with a separate Immobilizer (Includes 2000+ EuroVan, Cabrio, and many older non-US models), use [25 Immobilizer] instead of [17 - Instruments]. The rest of the procedure is the same.

On some Euro Audi models with Immobilizer 2, the PIN/SKC will be required.
On NAR market Cabrio models produced after 05/1999 the PIN/SKC may be required.

Activating Cruise Control on a new ECU (DBW)

DBW (Drive-by-Wire) Factory fresh ECU's often come with cruise control de-activated.

[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Login - 11]
Enter 11463 to activate cruise control
[Do It!]

Note: See this page for additional CCS details: Checking Cruise Control using Measuring Values
Coding

The new module will need to be coded. Enter the coding from the original module if possible. If the original module is not available, or did not communicate, refer to the coding chart in VCDS or the factory repair manual.

We are europe as far as VAG goes...

[Stan]

thanks mate, still not running...

[h100vw]

VAGTACHO might be your friend here to get the SKC from the clocks.

Gavin

[Stan]

thanks, will look into this!

[James Dean]

Apparently SKC's aren't just thrown around buy the stealership anymore. They pump in some number and letters into their computer something funky happens and sends it to a device that they then plug into something an wolla.

Avoiding anyone to see the SKC.

[grtuned]

yYou may have to tow to the dealership and have them authorise the ecu this is done with there equipment all at once during the process, i'm sure test plans for adapting immob items ask which component is new and then it codes it to suit the rest.