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  • Bora tow ball.

    Hi,

    Does anyone have any reconmendations for tow balls for a bora. Does VW make any and are they any good. Would be prefered if they are removable. In perth aswell

    Cheers
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    2001 Turbo! 4mo Bora 'Boring' | Carbinaro CAI | Fixing broken stuff | Sorting the Turbo Goodness! | BBS Lm's 18x8.5 | KW V2's | 4 pot Brembo's

  • #2
    i have a feeling these are horrendously expensive from VW. Best to go to a towball place or fabricator to make it, I'm told.

    I need one too (god i need a lot of things) to tow my go kart.
    MY02 Bora V6 4Mo|Matte Black plastidip|VTDA|R32 Exhaust|R32 dampers and springs|TT pedals|R32 steering wheel|17" 8L S3 rims|R32 sways|Blue Haldex|EBC reds

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    • #3
      I researched this before buying my latest Bora.

      Basically, Hayman-Reece make one but you will be stung badly for installation.

      Apparently it is a NIGHTMARE

      Best bet is to go OEM or to buy one with a bar already on it...

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      • #4
        I installed my own Hayman Reese towbar. Pretty straight forward actually.
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        • #5


          Only two holes to drill inside the boot.

          The towbar replaces the crash bar inside the bumper cover.

          There's six bolts in all, two through the floor of the boot, two through existing holes in the chassis rails and the last two pick up two of the crash bar bolt holes.

          Tail lights have to come out to get to the bumper cover bolts.

          Installation can be done in an afternoon in your driveway.
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          7? MK1 Caddy
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peter Jones View Post
            I installed my own Hayman Reese towbar. Pretty straight forward actually.
            Mind if I ask what everyone's thinking anyway - How much to purchase?
            MY02 Bora V6 4Mo|Matte Black plastidip|VTDA|R32 Exhaust|R32 dampers and springs|TT pedals|R32 steering wheel|17" 8L S3 rims|R32 sways|Blue Haldex|EBC reds

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            • #7
              I would have mentioned the price, but I forgot how much I paid!

              I just pulled out the receipt, the bar was $500 from the One Stop Shop Australia.
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              • #8
                wow! a lot cheaper than i expected! maybe my wallet can stand the punishment i want to throw at it.
                MY02 Bora V6 4Mo|Matte Black plastidip|VTDA|R32 Exhaust|R32 dampers and springs|TT pedals|R32 steering wheel|17" 8L S3 rims|R32 sways|Blue Haldex|EBC reds

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                • #9
                  Got a Hayman Reese bar on my 4motion a couple years ago, from memory it was $550 installed! Took the better part of the day but the installer did a top job

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                  • #10
                    Make sure you order the right bar, the boot floor is different between the 4MO and 2WD cars.

                    Capacity is 1400kg with a ball loading of 85kg.

                    Trailer wiring on these cars is simple too, there no issues with LEDS or can bus or warning lamps etc, a simple tap off the loom does the trick.

                    I didn't want to break into the cabling and found that there's actually extra connectors on the back of the tail lights where you can pick up all of the connections.
                    I hacked up an old MK3 wiring loom for the connectors and crimped them onto a ready made flat cable and trailer plug assembly I picked up at a trailer shop for under $20.

                    Makes me feel a bit sorry for the Tig owners and the silly prices they have to pay to get the electrics working.
                    Last edited by Peter Jones; 06-07-2010, 11:09 PM. Reason: Corrected Ball weight.
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                    • #11
                      Here we go. This info is off the Hayman Reese site Hayman Reese

                      (Sorry 'bout the formatting it was in a table that didn't cut and past too well.)

                      (Sorry about the misspelling of VW too!That's down to Hayman and Reese!)

                      4MO

                      Product Details Product : 01857
                      Description: MTO HR VW Bora
                      Category TOWBARS & HITCH RECEIVERS
                      Make VOLKSWAGON
                      Model Bora
                      Year 07/2001 On
                      Rating/Ball Weight 1400/85 KG
                      Shipping Weight 17 KG
                      RRP $430.51
                      Notes MTO 4motion only
                      2WD

                      Product Details Product : 01723
                      Description: MTO HR VW Bora
                      Category TOWBARS & HITCH RECEIVERS
                      Make VOLKSWAGON
                      Model Bora
                      Year 00/1999 On
                      Rating/Ball Weight 1400/50 KG
                      Shipping Weight 17 KG
                      RRP $496.89
                      Notes MTO
                      79 MK1 Golf Wreck to Race / 79 MK1 Golf The Red Thread / 76 MK1 Golf Kamei Race Car
                      7? MK1 Caddy
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                      • #12
                        Wow i never realised how low the ball weight rating for the 2wd models is, wonder why this is? Maybe related to suspension / rear axle loading? 50kg is really bugger all not sure i'd want to tow 1400kg with so little on the ball!
                        Last edited by WhO; 07-07-2010, 04:16 AM.

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                        • #13
                          More likely to do with the sheet metal around the back of the car. The 4MO has to support a rear diff assembly and there's a bit more strength in the chassis because of it.

                          I wouldn't worry too much about ball weight, the whole 10% thing is mostly the stuff of urban legend I can't find any science behind it

                          European engineering standards treat the issue of ball loading very differently.

                          I've done a bit of reading in the back ground in the past and found this quote here

                          Among all these very precise guidelines is one major variable: tow ball load. There’s a convention that sets tow ball load at around 10 percent of the trailer ATM, but this rule of thumb developed in the days of small trailers. It’s still the practice by many North American and Australian trailer makers to specify 10 percent loadings for heavy trailers, but in Europe, where there has been considerable testing done, the tow ball load range is specified in EC E94/20 regulation as a minimum figure of 25kg and a maximum of 100kg, for trailers up to 2000kg ATM. Even above that figure the heaviest gazetted coupling for cars, light commercials and 4x4s is rated at 120kg tow ball load.


                          Not being one to blindly accept stuff I read on the internet I looked up the referenced regulation Directive 94/20/EC but I can't extract the same opinion on first glance, there's a few calculations to be done. I'll figure it out one day. It's an interesting read though, gives you a new appreciation of the engineering involved.
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                          • #14
                            Cool cheers for the info gonna look a bit more into it. Few questions tho. How easy was it to install yourself, would you recommend it? Is the towball detacable, so it looks like its not there and out of the way?

                            Cheers.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Back Door Shenanigans. View Post
                              Is the towball detacable, so it looks like its not there and out of the way?
                              I believe it has to be by law, as it's technically illegal to leave a tow-ball/tongue hanging off the back of the car when it's not actively towing something.
                              Nothing to see here...

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