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  • Milltek non res vs. Other.

    Hey all;

    I am looking at an exhaust upgrade for my .:R32 and have been doing a bit of research, for a Milltek system (non res) in Australia i have been quoted $1,850, but then on ECS there are APR, Billy boat and Magnaflow for all less than $1,000.

    My question is; if there are any differences between the Milltek and say, APR, what are they? and are they really that dramatic for an extra ~$1,000?? (Im going to assume there is a large price gap there purely because it's a product from the US, too.)

    Thanks,
    Drew.
    2011 TDI Caddy- AirRex x AccuAir setup.

  • #2
    the apr's are supposed to be of higher build quality.

    not sure about performance.

    just get ecs items. cant argue with the price.
    are you sure they are that cheap?

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    • #3
      Yes they are that cheap. I got my cat back APR 2.5" exhaust for $1000AU landed compared to $2000 to buy from Aus. You'd be silly to pay extra when you can get it so cheap from overseas, especially with the GB on atm from ECS.
      03 MkIV GTI - K04-001, APR 2.5" TBE/TIP/Software, Forge FMIC, GFB DV+, Powergasket+, Dark Tint, 17" Bora Sport, Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, BMC CDA, Dieselgeek SS, Hella Celis, R32 Alloy Trim...
      95 MkIII VR6 (sold)

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      • #4
        Dmac.:R just got a B&B zorst here in Brisbane last week, ask him where he got it, how it's going, etc etc.

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        • #5
          Billy Boat and APR R32 exhausts are one and the same, the APR is built for them by Billy Boat, at least it was when they first came out a few years ago, whether APR are building them in house now I haven't heard, Guy could answer that one.

          FWIW I'm currently using the APR/B&B but planning on changing to a full headers back Milltek system supplied by Rennenhaus here in Australia.

          David Watson is using the full Milltek system in his R32 he runs in showroom class in the team in Targa and it is brilliant.

          Cheers Al
          Last edited by quozl; 19-04-2010, 11:50 AM. Reason: Typos
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          • #6
            I've also been looking at the ECS exhausts, does anyone have thoughts on the magnaflow cat-back, any performance difference between the brands. Cheers, Jared
            Audi S3-White Lightning

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            • #7
              What car do you have? The magnaflow exhausts are only 2.25" and I think the smallest you would want on a 1.8t is 2.5". But a magnaflow would be fine for a 2.0L.
              03 MkIV GTI - K04-001, APR 2.5" TBE/TIP/Software, Forge FMIC, GFB DV+, Powergasket+, Dark Tint, 17" Bora Sport, Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, BMC CDA, Dieselgeek SS, Hella Celis, R32 Alloy Trim...
              95 MkIII VR6 (sold)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TazzyVR6 View Post
                What car do you have? The magnaflow exhausts are only 2.25" and I think the smallest you would want on a 1.8t is 2.5". But a magnaflow would be fine for a 2.0L.
                I think he's got an R32...

                I'm probably biased - but I can't fault Magnaflow's systems. Love the sound they produce for the VR, and I'd recommend that sound to any VW V6 owner.
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                • #9
                  Ah ok, yeah I was going to buy a magnaflow exhaust for my VR6 but I ended up getting the GTI first. 2.25inch would be alright for an NA car wouldn't it? They claim that they make a decent amount of power, equal with many 2.5inch systems when I was looking and good price!
                  03 MkIV GTI - K04-001, APR 2.5" TBE/TIP/Software, Forge FMIC, GFB DV+, Powergasket+, Dark Tint, 17" Bora Sport, Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, BMC CDA, Dieselgeek SS, Hella Celis, R32 Alloy Trim...
                  95 MkIII VR6 (sold)

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                  • #10
                    I've found prices for stainless custom rigs to be much cheaper than any aftermarket product. should be just as good as Miltek or any other brand and you're supporting local business!
                    2004 V5 Bora ~ Eibach Pro + Bilstein B8 ~ Tyrol Brake Upgrade
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                    • #11
                      One thing to note is that a 2.25" mandrel bent system is probably the equivelent of a 2.5" press bent system, because mandrel bends don't reduce in diameter the way press bends do.
                      Nothing to see here...

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                      • #12
                        Yeah it's and R32. I would have thought that a custom stainless would have been heaps more expensive than a pre fab unit. But there you go, would a custom unit be able to match a pre fab for sound, drone and power?
                        Audi S3-White Lightning

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                        • #13
                          Sorry boys...i think all of them are over rated....
                          Pm Vwtech and ask about the exhaust i had built...R32

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                          • #14
                            I'd never buy an overpriced off the shelf exhaust, when you can get the same power and sound from a well put together custom exhaust.
                            My car has a custom 2.5" from the cat back, with an xforce muffler and it sounds great, no drone inside the cabin (may be different from the R32), and Im sure it cost a ****load less than anything off the shelf from the US/UK.
                            Current: '04 Astra SRI Turbo - EDS IPF Flash, 3" TBE, Quaife LSD
                            Previously: Bora 4mo, cams, coilovers, tune, exhaust, brembo's etc

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                            • #15
                              just out of interest, how much are people paying for a custom stainless exhaust if you don't mind me asking.
                              Audi S3-White Lightning

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