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  • #16
    my car creaks badly going up and down my driveway diagonally, it seems like the whole car just twists ...would strut braces anywhere just concentrate the flexion somewhere else at a weaker point or would they just make the suspension do more work?

    this one time, i had my hand out the window and on the roof when i was taking a corner and i could feel the top of the door flex and move, i get the feeling if i got front and rear strut braces the front and rear would be solid but going up and down my driveway the car would twist more in the middle.
    rikard's dating faux pas #067 - "hey i had a really great time tonight, i feel like i owe u something ..would u take $20?"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rikard1 View Post
      my car creaks badly going up and down my driveway diagonally, it seems like the whole car just twists ...would strut braces anywhere just concentrate the flexion somewhere else at a weaker point or would they just make the suspension do more work?

      this one time, i had my hand out the window and on the roof when i was taking a corner and i could feel the top of the door flex and move, i get the feeling if i got front and rear strut braces the front and rear would be solid but going up and down my driveway the car would twist more in the middle.
      My car creaks the EXACT same as yours does, like reversing up a driveway diagonally!!!!

      WHAT IS THIS???

      just the chasis bending???
      Last edited by McDub; 04-03-2010, 09:18 PM.

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      • #18
        Mine does as well! I thought these cars were tight!!
        2000 Mk IV GTI

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        • #19
          Hey Manz - have you had any takers yet for the second brace?
          I might just be interested.
          Cheers,
          David
          2003 Bora V6 4Motion

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          • #20
            Originally posted by dubbed View Post
            Mine does as well! I thought these cars were tight!!
            nah i def heard they had flimsy bodies, but i've never heard of people all having this same creaking issue! anyone know more about it???

            if the brace would fix it, i'd consider it if i didn't have stupid amps bolted to my rear seat...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tigger19 View Post
              Hey Manz - have you had any takers yet for the second brace?
              I might just be interested.
              Cheers,
              David
              Nobody's confirmed anything just yet. First in wins the prize!

              Originally posted by McDub View Post
              nah i def heard they had flimsy bodies, but i've never heard of people all having this same creaking issue! anyone know more about it???

              if the brace would fix it, i'd consider it if i didn't have stupid amps bolted to my rear seat...
              Think of a carboard box - even without bending the sides, it's relatively easy to change the shape of it by squeezing opposite corners in, or pushing one edge along its length. The Unibrace (and other braces) seek to fix that by stopping the change of angle in the corners, which, as long as you don't bend something, stops the shape of the rear of the car from changing.

              Time for an amp relocation?
              Nothing to see here...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Manaz View Post
                Think of a carboard box - even without bending the sides, it's relatively easy to change the shape of it by squeezing opposite corners in, or pushing one edge along its length. The Unibrace (and other braces) seek to fix that by stopping the change of angle in the corners, which, as long as you don't bend something, stops the shape of the rear of the car from changing.

                Time for an amp relocation?
                yeah i undestand the rigidity of a triangle
                just wondering what the creaking sound both myself, rikard1 and dubbed seem to have. if it's just the chasis flexing then sounds like a unibrace or simillar is needed...
                hmmm amp relocatoin, not many places to put em...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by McDub View Post
                  yeah i undestand the rigidity of a triangle
                  just wondering what the creaking sound both myself, rikard1 and dubbed seem to have. if it's just the chasis flexing then sounds like a unibrace or simillar is needed...
                  hmmm amp relocatoin, not many places to put em...
                  screw the amps to the brace no?

                  and i hear the creaking mostly from the driver's side rear tower and the driver's side B pillar ...my concern is that with the rear towers solid all the flex would occur around the B pillar and doors.

                  ...is there such thing a chassis brace? something like a cross shape brace underneath the car? id like to have ther car tight as before i throw some coilovers and more power in?
                  rikard's dating faux pas #067 - "hey i had a really great time tonight, i feel like i owe u something ..would u take $20?"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rikard1 View Post
                    screw the amps to the brace no?
                    suppose you could, though then it'd be even more work to remove if you needed to transport something large in the car...

                    Originally posted by rikard1 View Post

                    and i hear the creaking mostly from the driver's side rear tower and the driver's side B pillar ...my concern is that with the rear towers solid all the flex would occur around the B pillar and doors.

                    ...is there such thing a chassis brace? something like a cross shape brace underneath the car? id like to have ther car tight as before i throw some coilovers and more power in?
                    i doubt it, to stop that sort of flex you'd probably have to go all out and go with a roll cage!
                    but you're probably worrying too much about it. yes you will probably get more flex in the middle of the car as a result of stiffening the rear, but overall the car will still be stiffer.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rikard1 View Post
                      screw the amps to the brace no?

                      and i hear the creaking mostly from the driver's side rear tower and the driver's side B pillar ...my concern is that with the rear towers solid all the flex would occur around the B pillar and doors.

                      ...is there such thing a chassis brace? something like a cross shape brace underneath the car? id like to have ther car tight as before i throw some coilovers and more power in?
                      Think of it this way - where are the only points of contact between the chassis and the ground - and thus where's the best place to brace?

                      Other options for tightening the car up are stitch welding the seams - this adds material to the seam, which is all welded into one solid mass.

                      You don't do it all the way along, just a short bit followed by a break, followed by a short bit. Like this:
                      __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __

                      This adds strength, reduces the additional weight which would be added by welding the entire seam, and also avoids the potential for a bad weld to cause issues (as each weld is only relatively short, and you're leaving as much of the seam unwelded, and thus in its original state, as you are welded).
                      Last edited by Manaz; 07-03-2010, 07:53 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Manaz did you find out the updated price? Still interested - when do you need to know?
                        2003 Bora V6 4Motion

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                        • #27
                          Price for a Golf version (Bora version is different, but that won't affect you) is USD$275. Add your share of the USD$225 postage (so USD$112.50), so USD$387.50 to land it in Australia - would then need to get it to you in Vic somehow, though I don't think that'd be too expensive.
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                          • #28
                            good info guys, im sold on the brace but that will be a little later ..first i wanna get an alarm sorted as my car didnt come with keyless entry and although it has the standard immobiliser i figure its a good opportunity to add some nifty features like, remote windows open/close, coming/leaving home lights, more lighting in the cabin, etc.
                            rikard's dating faux pas #067 - "hey i had a really great time tonight, i feel like i owe u something ..would u take $20?"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Manaz View Post
                              Price for a Golf version (Bora version is different, but that won't affect you) is USD$275. Add your share of the USD$225 postage (so USD$112.50), so USD$387.50 to land it in Australia - would then need to get it to you in Vic somehow, though I don't think that'd be too expensive.
                              So according to XE.COM tonight that is $422.716 AUD If it is not too late PM me how we can set this up.
                              2003 Bora V6 4Motion

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