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    Hi all,

    Having driven another Bora as a comparison, I'm a little concerned about my clutch.

    Specifically, the pickup point. The other car I drove has its clutch pickup point right near the end of the travel (with the clutch almost fully depressed), whilst in my car, the pickup point is almost immediate (right at the top of the travel).

    What is considered normal for the Bora (V6 4Motion), and if my car isn't normal, is the pickup point adjustable, or am I looking at a potential problem?

    Cheers!
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    i think in all cars the pickup point is adjustable. Not sure how they do it but have had several of my cars clutches adjusted to where i like it.
    Think they can also adjust the distance over which it operates.
    ie a short or long travel.
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    • #3
      The clutch travel isn't adjustable, it's all designed in. They only way it would vary is by the use of different components.

      Was the other Bora a 4-mo?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by h100vw View Post
        Was the other Bora a 4-mo?
        Yep, one you've seen before (it made me want CC...)
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        • #5
          Rob, I was talking to him last night about the difference...I wondered about this before because my clutch is like yours, and I changed it in October. Apparently, it can be heaps different for every car of the same make, brand, year, whatever. Someone told me it has something to do with the bleeding of the slave cylinder (because our cars both have hydraulic clutches). I've not driven one VR6 with the same clutch.
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          • #6
            Isn't it normally the higher the take up point the more worn the clutch? Does this apply to our dubs?
            Cheers,
            Trent
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Treza360 View Post
              Isn't it normally the higher the take up point the more worn the clutch? Does this apply to our dubs?
              Cheers,
              Trent
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Treza360 View Post
                Isn't it normally the higher the take up point the more worn the clutch? Does this apply to our dubs?
                Cheers,
                Trent
                I'd say the same, in the least its an indication of a significant clutch wear. My own VR6 with 74k has a firm clutch with some difference in travel but it hardly picks up anywhere near the end as you describe, how many km's has the car traveled?
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                • #9
                  Trent, that's what I thought too but it just couldn't be right because I replaced my clutch and the grab point didn't go any further down. If anything, the clutch felt lighter..
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Golf Houso View Post
                    I'd say the same, in the least its an indication of a significant clutch wear. My own VR6 with 74k has a firm clutch with some difference in travel but it hardly picks up anywhere near the end as you describe, how many km's has the car traveled?
                    Just over 95,000km now.

                    Originally posted by Mrk_Mickey View Post
                    Trent, that's what I thought too but it just couldn't be right because I replaced my clutch and the grab point didn't go any further down. If anything, the clutch felt lighter..
                    Where was your pickup point to start with? The force required to move the clutch pedal isn't necessarily related to the pickup point unfortunately.
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                    • #11
                      Put it this way. When another R32 owner out there (not a member here) heard that I was still on the stock clutch at 100,000kms I was told I wasn't driving it hard enough. :p
                      Cheers,
                      Trent
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Treza360 View Post
                        Put it this way. When another R32 owner out there (not a member here) heard that I was still on the stock clutch at 100,000kms I was told I wasn't driving it hard enough. :p
                        Cheers,
                        Trent
                        If I'd put all 95,000km on the car, I'd be happy with it lasting this long.

                        Unfortunately I've just spent close on $2.5k on fixing the suspension and brakes, and another ~$1k isn't going to go down well with the minister for war and finance...
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                        • #13
                          Mine is quite low down. the slave and master plus all clutch accesories were replaced at 72,000 KM for a different problem which turned out to be the pressure plate.

                          If you want to test the clutch try in sixth gear at about 50 - 60 see if she slips up or rev's.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Manaz View Post
                            If I'd put all 95,000km on the car, I'd be happy with it lasting this long.

                            Unfortunately I've just spent close on $2.5k on fixing the suspension and brakes, and another ~$1k isn't going to go down well with the minister for war and finance...
                            1 grand sounds cheap to me.
                            Next week I'm booked in to have the clutch and flywheel replaced, maybe the starter too. I don't expect to see much change from $2300. And I'm sure it will top 3K with starter as service.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Manaz View Post
                              Where was your pickup point to start with? The force required to move the clutch pedal isn't necessarily related to the pickup point unfortunately.
                              Pickup point was in almost the same position! After the clutch was replaced pickup point was about...10mm up.

                              Originally posted by JustCruisn View Post
                              1 grand sounds cheap to me.
                              Next week I'm booked in to have the clutch and flywheel replaced, maybe the starter too. I don't expect to see much change from $2300. And I'm sure it will top 3K with starter as service.
                              You serious dude? That sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Clutch change has always been about 1000 from what I've heard, have you asked them to get parts from places that sell them at realistic prices? That could be part of your problem..cos that does sound expensive to me.
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