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    Hi everyone, My clutch is slipping once it hits boost, i only replaced it a year ago, I admit i didn't treat it too nice but i was wondering if there is any simple bolt on upgrade like an S3 clutch? I think i heard that you can fit a V6 4motion clutch and flywheel but risk getting vibration because it's not dual mass? Suggestions?? Oh and its a 2000 MK4 GTI.
    MK4 GTI (KO4, GIAC)
    VW Kombi Ute 2ltr EFI
    Audi 90 20V Quattro

  • #2
    Originally posted by MK2 GTI View Post
    Hi everyone, My clutch is slipping once it hits boost, i only replaced it a year ago, I admit i didn't treat it too nice but i was wondering if there is any simple bolt on upgrade like an S3 clutch? I think i heard that you can fit a V6 4motion clutch and flywheel but risk getting vibration because it's not dual mass? Suggestions?? Oh and its a 2000 MK4 GTI.
    S3 and 4 motion is an entirely different set up. The accepted upgrade is a solid flywheel and VR6 clutch kit or some variation on that theme.

    Do a search on ECS and see what comes up.

    Gavin
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    • #3
      Originally posted by h100vw View Post
      S3 and 4 motion is an entirely different set up.
      Because of the 6 speed gearbox yes?
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      • #4
        Is it not more because of the 4wd?

        Gavin
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        • #5
          Originally posted by h100vw View Post
          Is it not more because of the 4wd?
          Gavin
          Don't know. That's why I was asking.
          Cheers,
          Trent
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          • #6
            Yeah simply 6speed is an 02M and the 5 speed is 02a or 02J, clutch release bearing set up is different and the clutch is different.
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            • #7
              For a Mk4 GTI, solid flywheel from a 16v Cupra or TDI and VR6 Clutch is the Grouse
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Treza360 View Post
                Don't know. That's why I was asking.
                Cheers,
                Trent
                I thought you were making the statement Trent..

                I knew the S3/R32 were different but not what the story was with the 6 speed 2wd.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Golf Loon View Post
                  For a Mk4 GTI, solid flywheel from a 16v Cupra or TDI and VR6 Clutch is the Grouse
                  i fitted a ECS stage 1 (basically the same as a VR6 kit from what i understand) and 14lb flywheel yesterday...

                  to be honest i only drive it to work this morning as we only finished at 2am and im prety happy with it

                  nice pedal feel (amazing how different a new one feels compared to my original 10 year old item), and i reckon the lightended flywheel was worth it as the car spools up a bit quicker - kinda hard to explain...

                  losing the dual mass flywheel has meant that you do have to drive it a bit more carefully to avoid any jerking, but as i said im pretty rapt at the moment

                  cheers, dan
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                  • #10
                    That's a long day Dan!!
                    Good job it works eh!

                    Gavin
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                    • #11
                      I got the box rebuilt last week, I pulled the gearbox out again tonight to replace the clutch and it turns out the little spring that holds the mainshaft seal together has popped out and caused oil to go all over the clutch. It wasn't enough oil to leak onto the ground though. I'm going to put another standard clutch back in for now, the only reason i wanted to upgrade is because i wanted to get more than a year out of a clutch, seems i can on a standard one still, and also i want it going in time for the nats. Thanks for your help/opinions.
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                      • #12
                        Can you give some details on cost of clutch and flywheel ? Both stock and ECS.

                        I noticed some clutch slip today on boost from 3200 to about 4000rpm in 2nd and 3rd gear.
                        I'm running with APR chip, on 110klm I don't know how long I have until it gives up completly.
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                        • #13
                          If it's a dual mass flywheel i think there around $800ish with flywheel, thats for a "LUK", there more expensive then a normal set up.
                          MK4 GTI (KO4, GIAC)
                          VW Kombi Ute 2ltr EFI
                          Audi 90 20V Quattro

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