Looking at buying 2000 Volkswagen Bora

[Golf Loon]

So your making an assumption without fact ?


I thought personal insults werent allowed , not very good for an admin to insult a professional mechanic .

Not very professional to critcize others and provide no facts either. That was my point.

Also its "You`re" not "Your". Just providing facts to help keep you gramatically correct mate.

[gerhard]

Not very professional to critcize others and provide no facts either. That was my point.

Also its "You`re" not "Your". Just providing facts to help keep you gramMatically correct mate.

Err, don't you just hate it when you criticize someone's grammar, and in the very act you spell the word incorrectly.....

[Golf Loon]

Err, don't you just hate it when you criticize someone's grammar, and in the very act you spell the word incorrectly.....

Lol. Touche. Thanks Gerhard

[VW Convert]

Lol. Touche. Thanks Gerhard

Touché actually LOL


Cheers

George

[Bug_racer]

[QUOTE=Golf Loon;289802]Not very professional to critcize others and provide no facts either. That was my point.

Also its "You`re" not "Your". Just providing facts to help keep you gramatically correct mate.[/QUOT

I dont come on this forum to learn English , its not my first language anyway so I have an excuse .

To keep on topic here is my info just from a little googling :

V6 0-100 in 7.4
v5 0-100 in 8.5

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/nl/?car=79805

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/nl/?car=81543

So can you please tell us where your figures come from ?

[Bug_racer]

Same or similar features to V6, but only FWD, not 4WD, but lighter and less to go wrong.
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How much experience do you actually have with 4 motions to make a statement like that ?

The 02m is VW/Audi strongest east west gearbox and the haldex will take about 700hp before the rear diff will shatter .

The O2j pops diff rivets like no tommorow once they get over 250hp through them .

[Nozzi]

Bora?

I hear mazda's are nice hey!!


nah seriously... id get the v6 4motion.. everything is upgraded in that model compared to the standard 2.0 or the v5.

Like others have stated, just be carefull of the services its had or hasnt had.

[qsilverza]

I have done some research on this and many american's have seen 180,000 MILES or a lot more out of there VR's before having to replace the chain.

Chain is a bit like turbo's you will hear it starting to go as it will rattle but sure it can be a costly exercise if you don't so best to watch it.

Bora 6 is definately quicker than the V5 even with the added weight V5 feels gutless in comparison.Fail Wheel Drive car = light and economical but I would never consider one. Besides how much fun is it to power-slide an AWD car.... It's awesome and a challenge to with limited amount of power.

I can't believe that you would even consider a V5, the V6 is a stronger engine with a drivetrain that the AUDI TT 225 HP/TT 3.2 6, R32/S3 all high performance variant's especially the S3 which can get some serious numbers.

You could flog it all day, every day and it will take it because the engine doesn't give anywhere near what it is rated for in the Bora as per Bug's saying.

The haldex system is reactive but you can make it pre-emptive or more like a proper AWD car. Not hard.

15k will get you a nice one pretty much with around 100k on the clock, you can get them for a bit less at auction but also keep in mind both the V5 and the 6cyl need timing chains to be done at around 160-180k and thats an engine out job, and a very costly exercise!

[Damoo]

I have done some research on this and many american's have seen 180,000 MILES or a lot more out of there VR's before having to replace the chain.

Chain is a bit like turbo's you will hear it starting to go as it will rattle but sure it can be a costly exercise if you don't so best to watch it.

Bora 6 is definately quicker than the V5 even with the added weight V5 feels gutless in comparison.Fail Wheel Drive car = light and economical but I would never consider one. Besides how much fun is it to power-slide an AWD car.... It's awesome and a challenge to with limited amount of power.

I can't believe that you would even consider a V5, the V6 is a stronger engine with a drivetrain that the AUDI TT 225 HP/TT 3.2 6, R32/S3 all high performance variant's especially the S3 which can get some serious numbers.

You could flog it all day, every day and it will take it because the engine doesn't give anywhere near what it is rated for in the Bora as per Bug's saying.

The haldex system is reactive but you can make it pre-emptive or more like a proper AWD car. Not hard.

Thanks for the advice, sure the V5 may be sluggish, but its cheaper, if I wanted something with some guts I'd go a BA Ford Fairlane for the same price, has the same luxury features, more space and of course, more power which would burn both the V5 and V6 models badly in the 0-100km/h and 1/4 tests, also be cheaper to insure/service because its an Australian car. I just can't justify the extra $5000 or so for the V6 model which has AWD and is slightly faster

Which I think is fair enough, no offense intended to anyone I am heeding your advice though, so keep it coming!

[qsilverza]

No offense taken. The Fairlane is a totally different car and as I used to drive one as a company car I could compare them but it's not what you were looking for.

And if its pure speed we are after you could easily get a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R that would munch nearly everything on this forum but probably not as mature as some of the other cars on here in different area's.

You don't buy a ferrari because it goes fast, you buy a Ferrari because it's some of the best car money can buy.

At the end of the day, you need a list of your top 3 wants in a car and a budget.

Thanks for the advice, sure the V5 may be sluggish, but its cheaper, if I wanted something with some guts I'd go a BA Ford Fairlane for the same price, has the same luxury features, more space and of course, more power which would burn both the V5 and V6 models badly in the 0-100km/h and 1/4 tests, also be cheaper to insure/service because its an Australian car. I just can't justify the extra $5000 or so for the V6 model which has AWD and is slightly faster

Which I think is fair enough, no offense intended to anyone I am heeding your advice though, so keep it coming!

[Damoo]

No offense taken. The Fairlane is a totally different car and as I used to drive one as a company car I could compare them but it's not what you were looking for.

And if its pure speed we are after you could easily get a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R that would munch nearly everything on this forum but probably not as mature as some of the other cars on here in different area's.

You don't buy a ferrari because it goes fast, you buy a Ferrari because it's some of the best car money can buy.

At the end of the day, you need a list of your top 3 wants in a car and a budget.

Fair enough, I suppose the main things I want in a car are:

Comfortable for 4 people
Luxury Features, all the goods like leather interior etc
Moderate safety features

At the moment, I'm not too fussed with power and speed, that will come later

[Manaz]

You don't buy a ferrari because it goes fast, you buy a Ferrari because it's some of the best car money can buy.

And it goes fast!

[dubbed]

lol a BA Fairlane burn a V6 Bora? Even a G220 would struggle.

Anyway if you're not into performance just stick to the V5 Bora. Not much else compares for the money unless it's a Calais/Fairmont/Fairlane/etc but sit in them and feel the difference - they're still leagues behind a nice German engineered vehicle. Plus the Bora is a great size, has excellent features as standard and you can save the insurance money for more important things.

[qsilverza]

Comfortable for four People, yes, to a point though I find the Bora's/Golf's a bit cramped for leg room in the rear. Having said that, I have had mine fully loaded and have not heard a peep, try it out, all depends on where you set the bar really. I mean a car that really surprised me in the rear was an 2002 saab aero convertible 9-3, it is just a fantastic place to sit.

Features = Bora V6

Moderate safety, I guess the V5 would fulfill your needs here but the Bora would be and IS much better in the wet with regards to traction. I don't worry about how I am going to get across a busy road in the wet on an uphill incline with a sharp turn to the right because the engine is matched quite well to the AWD system thus it's not a fuss as it can be in some cars.

As has been mentioned, every car has a purpose and it depends on where you place your value's. The new Ford's were actually modelled on the Audi A6 in many way's.

And to give you an idea on how far ahead the Bora's were in some area's, my car has CAT convertor's the guy at the exhuast shop said the ford's/holdens were only just starting to get this technology.

Not to slag the Ford's etc. every car has a design and target market take them for a drive do the heart vs. head debate and buy !

Fair enough, I suppose the main things I want in a car are:

Comfortable for 4 people
Luxury Features, all the goods like leather interior etc
Moderate safety features

At the moment, I'm not too fussed with power and speed, that will come later

[Damoo]

Comfortable for four People, yes, to a point though I find the Bora's/Golf's a bit cramped for leg room in the rear. Having said that, I have had mine fully loaded and have not heard a peep, try it out, all depends on where you set the bar really. I mean a car that really surprised me in the rear was an 2002 saab aero convertible 9-3, it is just a fantastic place to sit.

Features = Bora V6

Moderate safety, I guess the V5 would fulfill your needs here but the Bora would be and IS much better in the wet with regards to traction. I don't worry about how I am going to get across a busy road in the wet on an uphill incline with a sharp turn to the right because the engine is matched quite well to the AWD system thus it's not a fuss as it can be in some cars.

As has been mentioned, every car has a purpose and it depends on where you place your value's. The new Ford's were actually modelled on the Audi A6 in many way's.

And to give you an idea on how far ahead the Bora's were in some area's, my car has CAT convertor's the guy at the exhuast shop said the ford's/holdens were only just starting to get this technology.

Not to slag the Ford's etc. every car has a design and target market take them for a drive do the heart vs. head debate and buy !

Catalytic Converters became standard on Falcons mid 1980s I'm sure Its an ADR I think it started on the XF.

I'm not very tall, only about 180cm. I won't need the seat pushed back very far so I'm guessing that gets rid of the back seat cramped up issue, unless they're like that normally. I'm sure it won't be too bad though As long as it isn't like a 2+2 Coupe haha. Also, I'm the tallest in the family by far, so if I have my parents and my sister in the car, they're all short so should fit in nicely without being cramped up hopefully

Keep the advice rolling!