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**Blitzen** · 16-02-2009, 04:56 PM

Mate, this is going to be expensive to do, no matter how much you look at it.
Look at after market brake rotors and pads...Rotors from either RDA or DBA as these are both Australian companies, and worth a look as they are alot cheaper, but high quality.
Filters are easy to source. Look at a few of the sponsors on this site, as they will be able to help you out alot.
Instead of taking to dealer servicing, why not look at taking it to a VW specialist mechanic?? This will be cheaper, and it negates the chance of you making the car worse than what it sounds like it is.
Update your location in your profile, as this will help you out greatly in directing you to said VW Specialist.

**Manaz** · 16-02-2009, 07:08 PM

My wife's 1997 Astra was a bit like this when she and I got married - to the point where at approaching eight years of age, it still had the original tyres (Continentals) on the back (the tread had never worn out, thus they were never replaced). One of them blew off, the tread separated from the sidewalls, as the rubber had just gotten so old and hard that it couldn't absorb bumps any more and it failed.

One thing to weigh up is the value of the car, the cost of a replacement, and the cost of repairing the existing car to bring it back to a reliable level. We ended up selling the Astra for $600 last year after I drove it to the local train station and back every day for quite some time. Electricals failing, A/C failed, head gasket blown, paint oxidised to all hell. To be honest, I think we got the better end of the deal.

And I got my Bora V6 4Motion, which makes me very happy

**fuzion** · 16-02-2009, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Nozzi View Post

hello,

Car : VW Bora 2004 2.0 stock standard. 110 000 km. purchased new.

wifes car is slowly packing it in and she hasnt ever had a proper service except for her dad changing the oil every so often. I think all thats been done is a new Gearbox and a new clutch! i dont know what she was doing to it!!

I NEED ADVICE...I think ive narrowed most of it down. Am i missing anything, or is there anything I should be trying?

first mech. problem is the VERY loud ticking ( lifters?!?!). I think its the lifters. when I got a hold of the car i added oil and the ticking quietened down. then after a while it returned. i then after researching decided to run ATF through the engine for about 30 mins at 2500 revs, then flushed the engine and returned to the regular oil she and her father demanded.( mobile 1 5w 50 I think). the ATF treatment was great.. it almost seemed to have sorted the problem.. then about 200 km or so later the noise slowly returned. Im guessing new thinner oil maybe or maybe the lifters need a clean/replace!? Im thinkin its a bit thick... the oil not my wife!

at the same time..

shocks are bottuming out (front)
brakes and DISCS are close to being due
timing belt needs done.
while im here might as well do all the filters considering no one has ever looked under there.
replacement lifters, im guessing if all else fails.

all of this is getting pretty expensive as far as I can see.. which is why i thought I might take it upon myself to be a mechanic. Ive got the bentleys and Ive been researching for a while now so as not to F*** it up!

main question is. whats a cheap place get parts?

below is my parts list so far

From www.Germanautoparts.com

VW G12 PLus PLus x 2
Oil filter, package of 10
Valve cover gasket, rubber
Gasket, upper intake manifold
OEM gas charged Strut. Front
OEM gas charged Strut. Rear
OEM discs front
OEM discs rear
OEM pads Front.
OEM pads Rear

From www.MJMAutohaus.com

Meyle Cabin Air Filter Charcoal
OEM Fuel Filter
OEM VAG Engine Air Filter
OEM VAG Lifters, Set of 8
Victor Reinz Gasket Sealer
Timing Belt Kit "PLUS" w/ strech bolts
Suspension "PLUS" Rebuild

I rang barloworld and the people at Volksbahn and I looked for other aussie stockists but the prices are pretty high or they didnt have what i need in stock.

I guess more than anything I need to know that Im doing the right thing...
and maybe a little bit of moral support... or something.

IMO i would honestly take it to somebody as its been that long and with your lack of knowledge (other then book) it would probably be best to get somebody to do it for you.

South i dont know, Jade Auto Repair in Roseberry (about what 20m from Cbah i guess? would be the closest people i would recommend to you, they're number is 9663-0427.

Best to take it to any vw/audi mechanic and get them to go through it thoroughly and just spend the money. Nothing is free or cheap these days, longer you leave things neglected the more it'll cost you either way

**h100vw** · 16-02-2009, 08:44 PM

You need to do some diagnosis before pulling the topend apart.

Oil that is too thin will cause tappets to be noisy. Another culprit is a blocked oil strainer on the pump.

Running your ATF might have dislodged a load of carbon that has made its way into the strainer.

Gavin

**Golf Loon** · 16-02-2009, 10:04 PM

Yeah i wouldn`t go pulling that motor apart at those ks until I had checked the strainer in the sump and flushed all the oil again.

Have you tried a slightly thicker oil? 5w 50 is surely a bit thin for a NA motor. Try a Castrol Maganatec.

**Bug_racer** · 16-02-2009, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Golf Loon View Post

Have you tried a slightly thicker oil? 5w 50 is surely a bit thin for a NA motor. Try a Castrol Maganatec.

Magnatec would be a thinner oil

**Golf Houso** · 16-02-2009, 10:14 PM

10w 40 Magnatec is by memory ...

**Bug_racer** · 16-02-2009, 10:16 PM

40 is less than 50 if my maths is right

**Golf Loon** · 16-02-2009, 10:21 PM

Not synthetic though, is it.

**D3bb4** · 17-02-2009, 12:13 AM

magnatec is a semi-synthetic 10w40.

Rather than putting ATF through the motor, there's a nulon product designed to unblock lifter vents which cause the ticking. Might be worth a shot?

Running any 40 grade oil should be fine for that motor, so long as has been regularly serviced in the past, and even then if it hasn't, mobil 1 5w50 is a thicker oil, should be fine if motor's a bit worn. if in good condition, a full synthetic 5w30 oil is recommended for these motors from castrol.

**Nozzi** · 17-02-2009, 06:35 AM

Sorry guys, had to tend to some house duties last night.

I guess the noisey lifters is kind of moving into an area that Im not completely familiar with. but theres nothing that I wont give a go. Theres no other way of learning. Other than saying that... Id rather leave cover on the engine until im completely sure that I need to pull it off.

So I guess, first things first, clean?!? tthe oil strainer, try the Nulon product and a castrol 5w 30?!?! then see how the noise goes from there.

I still have the list but Ill put that aside till I give this a try.

**Nozzi** · 17-02-2009, 07:37 AM

rotors and pads..

thanks Blitzen for the info.

I was just reading up on the DBA rotors, they dont seem to be all that bad hey.
i might do a ring around when everyone finally decides to wake up.

**Blitzen** · 17-02-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Nozzi View Post

thanks Blitzen for the info.

I was just reading up on the DBA rotors, they dont seem to be all that bad hey.
i might do a ring around when everyone finally decides to wake up.

No worries. I have used them on previous cars, and have nothing bad to say about them.

I would seriously consider going to see a mechanic for the work you have on. This may save some heartache in the long run.

**Nozzi** · 17-02-2009, 11:37 AM

thanks....

ive been looking at the rda and dba rotors like you suggested.

rda are much cheaper all round. what do you reckon? worth the investment in getting dba's? or do you think the wife wouldnt notice the difference and I should get something like the rda's?

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