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    A little while back I installed a Neuspeed short shifter kit which reduces the throw length between gears by approximately 40%. It was a bit notchy at first but it has settled done fine now (or I am now used to it) but it certainly makes for quick gear changes. Now a question I have is for those that have put in a short thow kit (HPA or whatever) is has anyone else found that the gear stick now seems out of proportion (i.e. too long) now that the throw is shorter? Maybe it is just me but I look at it now and can't help but think I should take an inch or two off the end of the rod. Looking at the manual I can't see how I could do this without wrecking it so I have left it. Has anyone else tried this or thought about it? Curious to know.
    2003 Bora V6 4Motion

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    hey, I dont mind mine. As you say it is rather notchy at first as a short shift kit tends to exemplify any problems or facets of the box 10 fold. I had mine on 40 % and went to 20 % as I found 40 to short for my liking.

    I think aftermarket would be the way to go as far as stick is concerned, there was a BMC one for sale on here a little while ago.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by tigger19 View Post
      Now a question I have is for those that have put in a short thow kit (HPA or whatever) is has anyone else found that the gear stick now seems out of proportion (i.e. too long) now that the throw is shorter? Maybe it is just me but I look at it now and can't help but think I should take an inch or two off the end of the rod. Looking at the manual I can't see how I could do this without wrecking it so I have left it. Has anyone else tried this or thought about it? Curious to know.
      The gear stick is not out of proportion. Have you watched the production cars such as the V8 racing? Are they as short in size as the average manhood ? If you want to waste your hard earned cash, cut it......
      -DIDZ

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      • #4
        once its hacked you cant go back,chop it in small increments untill you get it exact.

        short throw/short shift has never been on my mk4 to do list after blowing $300+ on a neuspeed short shift on the mk3.

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        • #5
          Short Shift Kit

          Thanks again for the advice guys - on reflection I'm glad I diddn't cut it and left it alone. On a similar topic is it worth changing the gear oil (Redline MTL) or simply playing around with the shifter linkage adjustment to improve the first gear 'notchyness' (is that a word??) - it was always this way even with the stock shifter.
          2003 Bora V6 4Motion

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          • #6
            i have a dieselggek ss kit on my tt.

            It is highly recommedned to change the gearbox oil to the redline stuff.

            Gear changes are 100x more smnoother than oem!
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            • #7
              Short Shift Kit

              Thanks Costa I'll look into getting some. I think I need around 2.3 litres.
              Cheers.
              2003 Bora V6 4Motion

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              • #8
                Diesel Geek shifter in my VR6 has been excellent for more than 2yrs now. Some early adjustment issues but highly recommended
                96 VR6, Black

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                • #9
                  i had my HPA short shifter in for a couple of months and i love it! Its set on 40% (maximum) and i think that these cars should have came out the factory like this
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by balkanac View Post
                    i had my HPA short shifter in for a couple of months and i love it! Its set on 40% (maximum) and i think that these cars should have came out the factory like this
                    Spot on there mate. I've had mine for about 5 months or so and difference in shift is amazing. Where it used to be almost a two stage throw now it's just a single flick and she's in. It was the one thing that used to really bug me with the car and now that it's been fixed...
                    Cheers,
                    Trent
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                    • #11
                      ive got a mate with an old carolla with about the shortest shifter ive ever seen- its about 3 inches long- but it sure throws faster than anything ive been in.

                      bout time to get one i think!
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                      • #12
                        What are the HPA ones worth?
                        2000 Mk IV GTI

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dubbed View Post
                          What are the HPA ones worth?
                          $150USD. An excellent value modification when the Aussie dollar was good.
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                          • #14
                            Do you guys find the notchyness (is that even a word?!) annoying/distracting?
                            Is it even as pronounced as some say, or is it more car centric?

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                            • #15
                              you can also get a dieselgeek but they are around US$280 ex USA, offering a 30% shorter throw both front to back and side to side.

                              I would say it was 'clicky' rather than notchy, but still so much better than standard

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