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MK4 R32 was the original plan but the minister for finance say no
for wat $$s to spend on a gti to have more hps you would spend way less on a R32!.....Just remember a couple years ago when Vw Aust. pulled there R32s of the track in Production Class!..subies etc wernt even close
strech budget to 20? is that possible, because, if you had a little search, i reckon you could pick up an audi a4 quattro 1.8 20v turbo with 132kw for about that.
i reckon that'd be one of the nicest dailys ever.. . especially in avant (wagon) form.
Jeez snowy that's a bit harsh, can you please go and pick on the "Ive got a big turbo and a small knob" guy again please? We all love speed that's why we're on this forum. However, with limited funds we can't all afford a super quick Euro. Have you got a build up thread for your car? I saw it at the German Autofest in Canberra and it looks hot I must say.
Don't get me wrong I love dubs but I also love quick cars and somewhere in the equation there has to be a value for money component.
As for the meaning of life try to avoid using tinned salmon in your mousse
I guess the other thing I was thinking of was AWD vs FWD, then I started thinking Bora V6 4mo, but from what I read the tuning options and power gains aren't that plentiful. Hmm think I opened another can of worms there LOL.
Thanks for your opinions guys I really do appreciate them. I also wouldn't want to be dubless for the fact that I would miss this forum. Heaps of the guys on here have helped me no end with the VR and it would be good to stay in a dub for this reason alone.
Mate, sorry if my post came over harsh as that was not my intention at all. But it'd be sad to see a fellow Dubber sell up and in your words, end up "dubless" and be torn on the decision for the sake of a few 10ths of a second that can be bought for an extra $1500 and will never be measured or really mean anything to anyone. I guess it's just how I interpreted your decision criteria and I was probably wrong.
Besides, you did ask us to convince you.
Make the choice you need to make for your own satisfaction and sense of value for money, that's for sure, but don't get caught up with the issue of speed/power/money and splitting hairs as a basis for the decision, it just really isn't that important when you have a car you love for a whole list of reasons.
A slightly slower VW and doing an advanced driving course would give you more benefit, value, and around a track probably more speed anyway.
I never have done a build-up thread but performance wise it's been chipped, TB exhaust, Throttle Body Hose, TIP and EVOMS Intake with Stage II.
I don't know what power I'm getting other than it feels pretty toey (technical term) and much quicker than it was stock.
There's much quicker cars than mine out there with different chips or whatever, but I like my car for a lot of reasons and splitting hairs on which brand of chip upgrade gives more power, and who had a boost leak on dyno day, etc. doesn't make it onto my radar of things to worry about.
strech budget to 20? is that possible, because, if you had a little search, i reckon you could pick up an audi a4 quattro 1.8 20v turbo with 132kw for about that.
i reckon that'd be one of the nicest dailys ever.. . especially in avant (wagon) form.
There are lots of cheap 1.8T sedans around at the moment. Like 8K!!!
Check ebay.
Mk4 GTI would be fun, but I`d get the polo, chip that and upset any subaru driver
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There are a few more options sub 20K., Hell even sub 15k you have a few options between some with 1.8T audis and mk 4's. Just have to look out for a good un. alot of have full factory service history, cause their owners could afford it and are as stock as they came! - prefect base imo.
If you get a mk 4, you will NEED to get it chipped. but that's relatively inexpensive. There heaps of upgrades and plenty of experience on VWW tooo about modding a 1.8T.
So, summing up. DOOOOO EEEEEEET!
Donno about polo GTI's though. are they under 15K already?
Subies are pretty thirsty things as well!! Finding an unmalested one might be hard too?
Get the Mk4 but rather than worrying so much about the 0-100 times, do the suspension first!!!!
Cheers, and dont leave us here, stick with a VW,
Andrew
B4s are possibly the worst Subaru ever to grace our shores. Badly tuned ex-factory, they ping & detonate on 98ron. Crap synchronization between the 2 turbos. Big flat spot just where you expect the engine to be coming on song.
WRX? Cop magnet & every wannabee on the road wants to race you. Just ask burgs (new to this forum) - he's just gone from a pignose WRX to a MkV GTI (and had a 3.0RB Legacy before that).
If you want to stay under the radar then a Golf, Bora, A3 or A4 is the way to go.
carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums
ok boys! i pulled out a 300hp subie out of my Vw sportsedan after i bought a 04 R32.....even my racecar weighs in at 650kg(tubechassis).Wat iam saying i found that the R32 Vr6 more responsive! The subie motor was quick and had some big mods...
I have seen a few Polos around the 20k mark, I think they maybe a bit small for my generous proportions however
According to some specs I've been looking at the MK4 GTI is only about 60kg heavier than the polo so shouldn't be too much of a performance difference I imagine? The APR chip also seems to give very usable low down torque. Yes I'm warming to the idea Especially for this sort of $$$
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