Supercharge/turbocharge

[VR-SICK]

Hello All,

Just signed up VW watercooled today at work... ( im beggin to get fired)

Just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction... i want to either supercharge or turbocharge my Golf VR6. i have spoken to a few specialist here in Melb. and they gave me mixed info.

One tells me to do a supercharge as its less parts, less expensive, and turbocharging will create too much eat in my engine...

On the other hand, another garage tells me that turbocharging is better as supercharing the VR6 will only create headaches for me...

saying that, i was just thinking of importing a whole engine+trannie from USA or sumthing and just doing a whloe swap... i believe it will be the most cost effective... and less hasssles.

ill be posting pics of my golf tonight, once i get home...

Looking forward to hearing from all you guys girls out there!!

Thanks!
Ben

[Pullstarter]

Howdy Ben and welcome to VR6 ownership
It really depends on what you want and what you're prepared to pay for. Supercharging in my opinion is an easier install and less stressful on your engine. On the other hand you will always get more power from a turbo conversion and if you want to get crazy power turbo is the way to go. Importing an engine and trans from the US would be huge $$ and I can't see it being cost effective, unless you have contacts in shipping etc.
Personally I would go supercharger, but this is just my opinion, I'm sure more will chime in with different opinions

[Shteifen]

you might want to talk to mk1turbo79 about it. he's had the supercharger and he now has a turbo setup.


not that ive done it but ive heard in a few places that superchargers are more simple. but i dunno i havnt done it.

talk to mk1turbo79, he'll have some good recommendations for ya

if your thinkin about importing an engine and tranny from the States, once youve figured out which kind of charger you want, why not buy a s/c or turbo kit from america. i hear kinetics is a good kit for turbo and either VF or Vortech for a supercharger kit.

keep us posted yeah?

-steve

[Shteifen]

oh yeah my choice would be supercharger too. probably just got everyone has a turbo. cos the power is more linear and that whine is absolutely wicked. i think you also lose the vr6 "grr" when you turbo, to an extent, where as with the supercharger you dont. FROM WHAT IVE READ.

that being said, turbo lag is like foreplay!

-steve

[Preen59]

If you just want a good improvement in power, put a blower on it. No heat problems, no running oil lines, cheaper, and best of all.. NO LAG!

[ScienceVR6]

I was doing a heap of research into turnbocharging localy, and the biggest headache is the computer. there are no plugins for it, and you will have to go standalone. Big cost. The imported kits come with re-writen computers, But watch for Left to right incompatibilitys

If you just want a good improvement in power, put a blower on it. No heat problems, no running oil lines, cheaper, and best of all.. NO LAG!

With the right turbo, and the standard compression, you won't see any noticable lag. But heat will still be an issue, as will making the motor not detonate with the highish VR6 compression.

[Shteifen]

i suppose a turbo system has the potential for being more fuel economic. because of the lack of parasitic power. and also if you try stay out of boost it probably would use too much more than stock. i suppose.

[ScienceVR6]

that was my thinking. And if you can keep the stock compresion, it should still make a normal amount of power while off boost.

[Golf Loon]

Supercharge It. No need to modify the engine.

Vortex supercharger kit.

Bahnbrenner website is useful.

If you turo you need to pull the engine apart to lower the comp. Supercharger kicks in earlier too which is what the vr6 needs.

Good Luck.

[vwthunder]

Supercharge It. No need to modify the engine.

Vortex supercharger kit.

Boost is Boost, You can Turbo it and run up to about 8 or 9 PSI.
Even with a Supercharger if you are running high boost you will stress the engine

[vwthunder]

. i hear kinetics is a good kit for turbo
-steve

That is what I would do Kinetic Stage 1 kit, later on you can intercool it, reduce the compression etc to run more boost

[DubSteve]

Boost is Boost, You can Turbo it and run up to about 8 or 9 PSI.
Even with a Supercharger if you are running high boost you will stress the engine

7psi is what the US guys run with stock ECUs people have fried there ECU's running bigger boost.

[Golf Houso]

7psi is what the US guys run with stock ECUs people have fried there ECU's running bigger boost.

How do you fry an ECU running more than 7psi Lol?

I'm pretty sure its all the shortcuts and dodgy parts they use that kill the cars, I doubt an engineered kit would do that.

[VR-SICK]

awsome,Thanks everybody!!

i thought that supercharge was the way to go... but i really wanted to get the turbo flutter *swho too too too*

Pullstarter, i happen to be in the freight forwarding business, and i an practically move the cargo into Australia for free...

so ive still got the importing in my head...

Here are a couple of photos of my car, i actually bought it about a year ago, and ive been in and out of these forums and figured i needed some direction...

ive got the following mods in mind for the future...
Supercharge of course...
coilovers(needed badly, maybe first on list as it scrapes when i have a full load)
and i want the agressive bonnet!! does any one know where to get this??

One again Ta!!

[Mrk_Mickey]

You can either grab a part off sites like tmtuning, ecstuning i think, or even ebay for the bonnet extensions. They're the easy to put on plastic ones. I'd love one, but alas I'm an anal mofo and I would rather weld an identically made METAL one onto my bonnet so there's no lines where she gets angry

Oh, and welcome to the forum mate, you'll have a great time here with your VR I'm telling you