Calling MK3 Boffins - Electric Window Fun

[UKDavo]

Hey Guys,

There are a million threads regarding this I know, I just want somebody with abit of 1st hand knowledge to confirm/deny.

My Situation:

Front
Drivers Window - Closes about half way and stops (will not close completely)
Front Passenger Window - Works Perfectly, up and down

Rear
The actual buttons on the doors themselves do nothing, not even a noise. But when I use the buttons on the console, the following happens:

Rear Passenger (behind driver) - I have to continuously tap the button till the window is at the top, if I hold the button for more than a split second it dances and goes back down

Rear Passenger (behind passenger) - Window is constantly open and will rise an inch at most.

Conclusion:
Drivers Window - I need new regulators
Front Passenger Window - Nothing works fine

Rear Passenger (behind driver) - I need new regulators and possibly switch
Rear Passenger (behind passenger) - I need new regulators and possibly switch

What do you think?, am I right?. If not any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Umai Naa!!]

Lube the rubbers with silicone spray for the windows that are not going 'full mast', and see how you go.

[Ironman]

Your rear window sounds like it has broken the plastic runner. Not a hard fix, there is a joey mod where you use a piece of small dowel (I used the tip of a chopstick)(FYI not asian). And a cable tie. Takes some wrangling, but you should find the solution in the FAQ or one of many related threads.

[UKDavo]

Sounds awesome. Haha love the disclaimer.

I'll take off all the door panels tonight after work and assess.

What's the deal with the foam insert inside the door card, are people keeping it or just ripping it off?

[Juzzpc]

Calling MK3 Boffins - Electric Window Fun

I put mine back on , thought it might help with the door not sounding like a tin
dunno if it helps though

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[UKDavo]

Ahh right okay, I'll try and put it back as best I can. Think I've already ripped some of it :/

[Juzzpc]

I'm guessing some would still be better than non


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[mattross]

UKDavo
Just had the exact same problem with the Rears: The regulator was damaged, and internally in the motor the wire had jumped off the spool wheel and was internally spooling out, also a plastic clip that holds the wires flush against the inner door wall had snapped and the wire was loose to be snagged as the window went up, snagged and the motor automatically reversed. New reg fixed it, but after looking at the minor damage i could of patched it up.
The drivers controls for the rear has a lockout button, try that. Manually bridge it to see if its the switch, otherwise it must be in the wiring somewhere between the drivers switch and the windows.

Fronts same deal as above, the reg is damaged, this is common a small plastic stop gets damaged and can damage the motor mechanism is it gets jammed in their. I suggest a new reg, easy to install as they usually come pre wire wound.

I've done 4 regs in my Mk3, its common, and usualy the small plastic ends that fail and unspool the wire in the motor, or the motor spooler itself.

[UKDavo]

Ahh @mattross you legend!

Was hoping to do some ghetto repairs for now to save the $300 worth of regulators I'll need lol but I'll suss it all out and repair what I can and replace what I need to.

Thanks again for the reply mate, pics speak a thousand words!

[Special Air Service]

I have a similar situation,

all of mine work & travel from fully open to fully closed positions, but some work differently to others.

The front work correctly as far as I can tell. quick press of the down button and they only move a small amount each time, a longer press & they go all the way down automatically. on the way up they only rise for a long as I am pressing the button.

Passenger side rear ,moves small amount with quick press of down button & about a fifth of the way down each time with a longer press, even if I hold my finger on the button it only goes about a fifth of the way & then I have to release & hold again, repeat until it gets to the bottom of the door. works exactly the same way on the way up. dashboard buttons perform the same way.

Drivers rear door, quick press of the button makes the window move down about 1cm and then it goes straight back to the top, doesn't matter where abouts the window is in the door. If I hold the button it will move as long as I hold the button. But if I hold it all the way to the bottom until it stops, when I release the button if then decides it's going all the way to the top again. Up button doesn't do anything.
However, this window works just like the front two windows if I use the dash board button.

I have swapped the window switches from side to side & it make absolutely no change to how they perform.

Not hijacking , just throwing some more light / info on subject (& maybe help get mine sorted at the same time.)

[UKDavo]

@special air service. Unfortunately mate I can't help, I'm still very new to the MK3 world.

However if it helps at all, mattross was spot on with my situation.

I remove a couple of regulators last night and found the main wheel was in pieces and all the wire was all crewed and frayed.

Ordered 3 new regulators from eBay today then I'll sort out my rear switches. Most likely frayed wiring I'm thinking.

[mattross]

Ghetto Repairs: I've done before, some plastic welding of the stops, and cut off of the bad wire exactly 1 turn of the spool wheel, then when you put back together do one less turn on the spool wheel. Some Swage fasteners also worked well.

I bought 2 new regs, 1 front & 1 rear for $180, not genuine..... Mechanex and Meyle do them. Try some generic parts dealers that deal in those brands.

[UKDavo]

Ahh okay, just bought the drivers side one from eBay this morning for $140 delivered. Thankfully the other 2 are a lot cheaper because they're rears.

Thanks for the info mate.

[mattross]

SAS

Fronts: Thats normal, small presses = small movements, large ones go to full auto up/down

Drivers Rear: sound like my problem, this is where the spooler wire is not tensioning correctly or jammed and the motor reverses out. Or the wire clip has snapped off and the wire is hanging around in the frame and gets caught on the glass window holders clamps.... but as it doesn't occur from the drivers controls i'd say that this is an electrical issue. The Motor has a lot of electrical pins, and its common for the solder joints to fail, but if i were you and handy with a voltmeter i'd try the switch first. Its 4 pins, so (assuming here) 1 is for + or neg, 1 is powers the LED, the other two are up and down. Disconnect the drivers controls and bridge the lock out is also worth a try. Lights on and off testing also.

[UKDavo]

Just waiting for the regulators to be delivered from Sydney now. This is what I found when I pulled my drivers side out: