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    Hey,

    So my suspension is ruined on my 98 VR6 and I'm looking to do a cheapish replacement. I had looked at Bilstein suspension but it's way out of my price range. Was looking at $2,400 for everything including installation, but considering that's almost half the value of my car it probably isn't the smartest idea :-0

    I've read a bit and have found the following kits. Does anyone run either of these that can give some feedback or advice? They seem to cheap to be good?

    ECS Tuning Streetline Coilover Kit (Volkswagen Golf III VR6 12v > Suspension > ES#250776 Streetline Coilover Kit - Fixed Damping - SMVW8001KT)
    CX Racing Coilover Kit (92 98 VW Golf MK3 Coilover Suspension Racing Drift | eBay)

    Cheers,

    Dan

  • #2
    CX racing, Weitc, KW, H&R. All good brands. ake sure you replace your upper strut mount and rubber while you are at it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by water boy View Post
      make sure you replace your upper strut mount and rubber while you are at it.
      ^^^^definitely this
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      • #4
        Which coilover to buy?

        Well I can't speak of the CX ratings, but I've got a set of Streetlines in my 2.0lt now and I've had no troubles, go decently low as well. I've got them would all the way down at the front but I need to roll my fenders now because they rub. And the rears have maybe an inch and a half to two inches left of threads, but they are rubbing too. The ride isnt TOO bad, havent had any complaints but you will defiantly feel the bouncy-ness. But by all means they are a great decent set of coils for the price.
        Photo for reference. They where maybe 5-10mm higher at the front that day due to 'spirited' driving.

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        • #5
          I think we need a sticky for this topic already...


          +1 for CXRacing.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DBT_98vr6 View Post
            So my suspension is ruined on my 98 VR6 and I'm looking to do a cheapish replacement.
            Is it just the damping that is gone? If so, just get a set of Koni or Bilstein dampers as you will get better suspension control for your dollar - no need to go for coilovers unless you want to lower it.

            Originally posted by veedubMK3 View Post
            The ride isnt TOO bad, havent had any complaints but you will defiantly feel the bouncy-ness.
            You want to avoid this result which is typical of cheap dampers (in this case, in the coilovers)
            Last edited by kaanage; 05-08-2013, 06:45 AM.
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            • #7
              What do you want from it?
              Just a replacement, or upgrade in performance too, or lowering?
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              • #8
                Also all remember our cars are coming up to nearly 20 years old so all the bushes are a bit shagged. If you plan on being serious and not just a a "low scene kid" a full front end refresh kit is worth it. foff did a full refesh and his car was slammed but drove like it was new.

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                • #9
                  Second Water boys comments but also check whats already there. My front wishbones already have poly bushes that look like theyre in pretty good nic so hopefully theyre ok at the moment.
                  Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
                  Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
                  Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dylan8 View Post
                    What do you want from it?
                    Just a replacement, or upgrade in performance too, or lowering?
                    I'm not sure what is gone specifically. Two corners, one front, one back, are pogo'ing. I want to reduce the ride height as it looks awkwardly high atm, and I also want to improve the handling. I'm spending a lot of effort maintaining the original comfort of the ride and sound as well so don't want to sacrifice that. Is that asking too many things?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DBT_98vr6 View Post
                      I'm not sure what is gone specifically. Two corners, one front, one back, are pogo'ing. I want to reduce the ride height as it looks awkwardly high atm, and I also want to improve the handling. I'm spending a lot of effort maintaining the original comfort of the ride and sound as well so don't want to sacrifice that. Is that asking too many things?
                      Not if you're happy to pay for a good set of coilovers.
                      Also, as far as installing them, it isn't too hard to do if you're handy &/or have mates who are handy with cars and tools
                      1976 VW Golf "Swallowtail" - Rallye Red (long term resto)
                      2009 Pirelli GTI - Stg3 killer
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DBT_98vr6 View Post
                        I'm not sure what is gone specifically. Two corners, one front, one back, are pogo'ing. I want to reduce the ride height as it looks awkwardly high atm, and I also want to improve the handling. I'm spending a lot of effort maintaining the original comfort of the ride and sound as well so don't want to sacrifice that. Is that asking too many things?
                        Mate I'm in your situation and I honestly recommend the CX racings. I've driven a VR6 with them and they improve the comfort and feel of the car massively (feels quite upmarket actually) and also stiffen it up heaps. Just my opinion. i cant speak for how long they'll last though...
                        Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
                        Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
                        Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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                        • #13
                          I havent been in a car with the CX racing, but from what I've read they are what I would be putting in an mk3 if I still had one.
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                          • #14
                            Three criteria have been specified here:
                            1. Moderate Budget
                            2. Restored or improved handling with minimal impact on ride
                            3. Drop for improved appearance


                            IME, you will only get 2 of the 3 although #2 is very subjective (what someone finds comfortable could be unacceptably harsh to another plus do you really know what good handling is? - http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...nds-82194.html)
                            Last edited by kaanage; 05-08-2013, 05:10 PM.
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                            VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS

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