So its begun!

[Shteifen]

So Santa came a day early....and i had to pick up my gifts from the post office...and i had to pay for them myself...but they arrived christmas eve!
All my parts, minus the C2 chip, arrived!
Block parts:
-82mm pistons from the euro VR6's with rings and pins
-rod bearings
-crank bearings
-new main bolts
-APR rod bolt set
-gasket set

Head parts:
-Light weight lifters (12)
-gasket set/seals/stem seals/injector orings
-valve guides (12)
-Autotech 262* cam
-head bolts
-2mm+ intake valves
-2mm+ exhaust valves

Other crap:
-msd coil pack bracket
-flywheels bolts, pressure plate bolts
-C2 chip (sent but not yet received)

I am stoked as! tryin to figure out when im going to actually get it done, but ive got about a week or so before i go overseas on the 10th for 3 weeks, so i reckon ill get the engine out and give it to someone (probably R G Baker at this stage, and if he isnt on holidays next week) to get them to rebuild the head and bore the block while im overseas.
Then when i get back hopefully everything goes well and ill be able to pick it all up at the start of the first week of February and chuck it back in that week and have it running by the end of the week so i can drive it to SEDF.
But thats only if all goes well, and since that never happens i imagine i wont be driving it to SEDF, but we'll see!

Ill try get some pics of parts up in the next day or so, when i work out the easiest way to.

-Steve

[schoona]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooot sweet parts buy Steve

Bigger cam ???

Here's hoping it runs smoothly

[Shteifen]

yeah bigger cam, not too much bigger. just big enough not to lose any low down torque.
I had the chip set at 750rpm, which will be a little lumpy. If its too lumpy, i work at VW so have access to the computers so i can change it a little higher if it wont idle of runs too rough. Should be FUN!

-steve

[Golf Houso]

C2 chip... what the hell, they make them for our ECU's?!@!@!@

EDIT: Oh and, awesome good luck with the build!!!

[schoona]

yeah bigger cam, not too much bigger. just big enough not to lose any low down torque.
I had the chip set at 750rpm, which will be a little lumpy. If its too lumpy, i work at VW so have access to the computers so i can change it a little higher if it wont idle of runs too rough. Should be FUN!

-steve

I see...oh i knew it was a bigger cam, just thought with all the effort you would go a bit bigger to make better use of everything that's all.

The chip on fourseasontuning is listed at ~250 iirc, whats the prcocess involved with organising that??

[Jarred]

Nice one Steve will be good to see this all happening finally!

p.s. were you at knox cinemas monday night? and grill'd?

[Shteifen]

yeah i know its about time haha! and yeah i was at knox! had just seen sherlock holmes with my parents (pretty good movie!)

reason i didnt go with a bigger cam was cos i want to go FI one day and ive read anything bigger than a 262 has too much overlap for FI. could have gone a combo cam like 264/268 or something like that but they cost alot more. 262 was best all round cam for the price with best overlap for FI that ive found
had actually attempted to buy that stage 2 supercharger kit that was on here a couple months ago, but unfortunately a nasty tax bill made it too expencive to do the rebuild and charge it at the same time. just bad timing, i REALLY would have liked that kit

had originally ordered the GAIC chip, but James from fourseasonstuning, said they didnt have a chip which matched the ECU number i gave him, but C2 did so got one from them instead. ive heard they are pretty good so why not! kinda strange since mk1turbo79 checked with GIAC when i was workin out costs and whatnot with him for the charger kit and they said they had a chip that would match my ECU number. maybe only one for a SC works but not regular chip. whatever, either way ive got a C2 chip on the way!

-steve

[whiteVR6]

Just curious why didnt you source a Giac chip locally ?

Also why such big valves with such a small cam ?
What compression ratio are you running ?

[Shteifen]

Didnt bother tryin to get a Giac chip locally because i had looked a while ago and any local chips had been up in the 600+ dollar range. Now that you mention it, Tim wasnt a dealer back then so maybe he would have been able to get it cheaper...oh well too late now! either way it only cost a few hundred.

Still at 10:1 compression.
Went with that Cam/Valve combo with the intent of gettin as much out of it as i could with still keeping it as open to FI as possible

-steve

[Tim]

hey steve! good work man. cant wait to hear how it all goes for you.

out of curiosity. what ecu # do you have? C2 now have a UK arm which seems to have opened things up for us a little bit here.

[Shteifen]

thanks man!
ECU number is 021 906 256. ive heard most people have two letters or numbers after that but thats all ive got

[Tim]

weird. Ive got two letters on the end of mine! I have a couple of other ECUs kickin about the place with letters on them as well. Yours must be special!

[rayray086]

Good luck with the build Steve!

Looks like there's heaps of people doing up VR6s now, which is awesome to hear!

[KI11Z]

nice Steve, nice!

though have you spoken with your engine builder about using the +2mm valves on intake and exhaust? I never went with that set up because they would just about touch each other with no gap in between, this will cause the seals to wear out prematurely? Just what I was told thats all.

and some usefull info, the sc kit was passed on for a reason, it was dissapointingly slow, if you go fi go turbo . . .

Are you doing your clutch? and why not go forged pistons now whilst its apart? whats the advantage of the euro 82mm's?

sorry for the long reply

[Shteifen]

nice Steve, nice!

though have you spoken with your engine builder about using the +2mm valves on intake and exhaust? I never went with that set up because they would just about touch each other with no gap in between, this will cause the seals to wear out prematurely? Just what I was told thats all.

and some usefull info, the sc kit was passed on for a reason, it was dissapointingly slow, if you go fi go turbo . . .

Are you doing your clutch? and why not go forged pistons now whilst its apart? whats the advantage of the euro 82mm's?

sorry for the long reply

yeah tim ive only heard of people having 2 letters after the number, never without, but i guess im just special like you said! win!
yeah i spoke to the engnine builder about the valves, though i dont think many people have enough experience with these heads to know stuff like that about it. that being said he will be putting in new valve seats obviously because they are over 1mm oversize, but people on vortex have often used 42mm intake and i think 39mm exhaust (if my memory serves me right, which it probably doesnt. probably wrong on the exhaust) but i know people have done atleast one mm bigger on intake and im pretty sure a little bigger on exhaust

do you mean that particular kit was disappointingly slow?
ill be having a look at my clutch when i have it all out, and ill probably just replace it with a stock one because when i did timing chains about a year ago, it looked a little low, so ill probably end up replacing it. whether stock or a little better i havent decided yet, but im workin on that. i hear the stock one is fairly good anyway even for low boost FI.

i didnt go with forged pistons for three reasons, first was i dont have the desire to go through gear boxes like beer bottles, so if i do go FI it wont be high boost so there wasn't really any need to go forged since even a stock bottom end can take well in excess of 300hp for a while. second, just added to the first reason, was cost. OEM cast 82mm euro pistons were around 500 USD, where as any size forged ones were atleast 850 USD. and third was, i wasnt going to wait until i had the engine apart to figure out whether or not i needed bigger pistons because that would take another few weeks to order and get here and i dont have the time and i cant be bothered waiting, so i just went ahead and ordered 1mm oversize pistons....yeah thats pretty much it!

so i had driven down to Rye and Dromana in Victoria for new years eve weekend and i realized, the money and time i am spending and im going to spend on this build is totally worth it. my engine as it stands is absolutely gutless. just has no power. maybe a little more powerful than my old 2.0 golf 3, but not much more. sounds ACE but its all bark, no bite.
that was actually one reason for doing this anyway.
another was, i did a compression test a while back and found some disappointing results. they were as follows:
1 2 3
180 175 180psi
4 5 6
185 110 60psi

so as you can see, 5 and especially 6 were bloody pathetic. could have probably just don the head, but why not do the block while im there and make it technically a 2.9 litre. though i dont really like calling it a 2.9 because with 82mm pistons its only like 2861cc so only barely a 2.9 but whatever, i suppose it is.
wow this was way longer than i though ti was going to be, sorry to those of you with better things to do.

monday i should be getting the aircon degassed at work, and coilovers wound back up so i can get it in the back shed, and start tearing into it that night. see how we go!

-steve