Future of my VR6

[Golf Loon]

There are 2 in the classifieds on her for $10k. Check the whats on ebay section.

[Mr Messy]

There are 2 in the classifieds on her for $10k. Check the whats on ebay section.

I'm going to cover my eyes and pretend I didn't read that!

Nah, I love and cherish my Mk4, hopefully it loves me back come resale time.
My $0.02 is that a Mk4 GTI is not a 'performance car' like a WRX or whatever until you spend $$$ on it. I view the car in the same vein as the 4mo' Bora or a six cylinder 3 series - a comfy cruiser with very good quality and a bit of poke when you need it.

A 'charged VR6 would have heaps more character than a Mk4 (and sound wicked to boot).

[noom]

Hi there Messy
I am starting to share your sentiments about the VR6. However, I am afraid of the car turning into a money pit ... there was a similar thread here not too long ago.

Cheers

[VR6child]

Maybe go for a cheap reliable car to get you through monday-friday and keep your VR off the road to let you work on it or build it up, whatever you prefer. I think that with a modded VR down the track you will be far more satisfied than driving a mk4 gti, which I hear are less reliable than other generations and the gti model especially is not up to the standards of other generations. I can only say anything from experience on the VR tho as I haven't driven a mk4 gti as yet.

[Mr Messy]

I wouldn't say the MK4 GTI is unreliable - in fact I reckon it's probably better than the VR6. Timing belts and water pumps are an issue for the 20V motor, but we're all aware of that and stay on top of it. The first thing I did when I bought mine was have the T-belt, tensioner and pump changed. I don't expect any problems at all from it now!

I think the difference between the two is like Honda's 1999 DC2 Type R (=VR6) and 2007 DC5 Type S (MK4).
One has loads of character but will cost $$$ to keep going, and the other is a bit less focused but a better day-to-day car for it.

[noom]

I can always hear a humming sound when driving. Is that from some kind of pump (water pump)?

Also there seems to be this ticking sound coming from the ABS module (at least I think that is the ABS module, the one on the passenger side of the engine bay, with narrow steel pipes coming out). Is that normal?

I have asked my mechanic to look into this, but each time I turn left I can hearing a grinding sound. He told me the first time there was some loose plate which he tightened, but its come back again.

Thanks again for everyones input.

[schoona]

I think you need to understand (I am on this learning curve at present) that cars, performance cars, low volume cars, modified cars cost money.
Im 18, had a 190E benz which has dug me a bit of a hole im working to get out of atm. I have the VR as well, which isnt problem free as such, but nothing "major yet". Mickey has been on a similar path with cars giving him grief. It gets even more frustrating when you want ot modify components. Cash spent repairing isn't cash spent customizing, stretching your patience further.

As far as quality goes, my VR is ahead of mates with commodores and what not by a mile. That suits me fine being young. There are guys putting mk4 seats ion the mkk3's with custom rails. More comfortable, leather, recaro whatever...so getting the luxury/quality of the mk4 in their 3.

Also, tlak has been of the mkV being down on quality compared to the mk4. Its not going to be an audi, but you arent paying the badge premium either. So at the time when the 4 was built, you can rest about the quality. Take into account the afformentioned weater pump and tensioner etc though...

You have a VR. By the time you sink ther coin into it that it deserves and buy QUALITY parts which will save you in the long run, you could probably have built a mild tune GTI. 2 different characters. Both as good as each other IMO (not having driven a mk4 GTI mind).

The VR makes me smile. Its nuggety enough. More so once coils are on. Sounds horn. Not many on the road. And if you are talking about booosting things, well then you move into another echelon.

[schoona]

besides. you are on an enthusiast forum

look at some of the build threads rays/mickeys/steves (when he gets his backside into gear) come to mind as being of sizeable efforts immediately. they are sinking hard earned time and dollars in....there is your inspiration, well at least the mk3 argument