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thats strange advice telling someone to buy a Golf1 instead of a nice 91/92 GTi.Just because the belts squeal.
There is a big difference between the two cars as just about all Golf 1s on the market would never be on par with a Mk2 GTi.
Crap interior vs nice sports seats
Cracked dash vs nice late one
Funny old steering wheel vs a much better one.
Vent windows fall out vs nice one piece wind ups
No sway bars vs front and rear ones
Fuel Injected 1.8 vs carbied 1.6 (double the mileage)
Crap brakes vs 4 wheel discs
Average lights vs extra driving lights
no suspension travel vs on and on and on and blah blah
I have never heard of this problem with the Golf 2. It must be something to do with the age of the car or non genuine parts. As for lubricating the belts, it's like taking a panadol to ease the pain when you've broken your leg.
I agree with both GolfWise and Syncro. I hope I`m as wise when I get to be as old as you guys!
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thats strange advice telling someone to buy a Golf1 instead of a nice 91/92 GTi.Just because the belts squeal.
There is a big difference between the two cars as just about all Golf 1s on the market would never be on par with a Mk2 GTi.
Crap interior vs nice sports seats
Cracked dash vs nice late one
Funny old steering wheel vs a much better one.
Vent windows fall out vs nice one piece wind ups
No sway bars vs front and rear ones
Fuel Injected 1.8 vs carbied 1.6 (double the mileage)
Crap brakes vs 4 wheel discs
Average lights vs extra driving lights
no suspension travel vs on and on and on and blah blah
I'll say no more
Agreed, it is a stange thing to suggest, although a mk1 golf has something mk2 will never have - soul.
Theres no way anyone can even suggest that a mk2 offers anywhere near the same driving experience as a mk1. and before you ask, i've driven loads, standard and modified, and the Mk1 wins everytime.
If you like the later cars, fine, doesn't mean they are BETTER though does it !
Here in Australia one cannot buy anything but basic mainly 4 door base model 1.6 carbied cars from 1976 to 1980.
No GT1s were sold and only a small handfull being privately imported so there are no options for someone to rock up to a local car yard to purchase a nice example of an early Golf, most are now 25 years old and neglected.Thats why my comparison ,there are no Australian mk1s in standard form that come close to the Mk2 GTis that were sold here.
I don't want to go over and over about it but a 1.6 carbied car on soft suspension,dreadfull brakes,no sway bars,13 by 5 inch wheels with 155by 13 tyres.
End of story.
ps I've owned more mk1 Golfs than just about anybody, and 2s,3s and4s
Here in Australia one cannot buy anything but basic mainly 4 door base model 1.6 carbied cars from 1976 to 1980.
No GT1s were sold and only a small handfull being privately imported so there are no options for someone to rock up to a local car yard to purchase a nice example of an early Golf, most are now 25 years old and neglected.Thats why my comparison ,there are no Australian mk1s in standard form that come close to the Mk2 GTis that were sold here.
I don't want to go over and over about it but a 1.6 carbied car on soft suspension,dreadfull brakes,no sway bars,13 by 5 inch wheels with 155by 13 tyres.
End of story.
ps I've owned more mk1 Golfs than just about anybody, and 2s,3s and4s
Ah, Australian Mk 1 's, neglected ones too ! My apologies, did see that in your original post, probably why i missed the "point "
Im not spoiling for a fight or anything, i just think a mk1 is a better car full stop, don't get me wrong, a decent mk2 can be a splendid car, although comparing a gti to a standard mk1 isn't really fair, some of the base model mk2 are truely appalling too, they did an 1100cc one for a time, horrid !
I reckon you guys are mixing it for the wrong reasons. Golfwise...Sure we had only one go at the Mk1s here in Oz and no Mk2s. In the UK they got so many different models and variants that we know little about because they didn't come here. Our only experience is through personal imports. And, not everybody wants or needs a Gti! Manufacturers have to aim their mainstream models at the masses and so must incorporate a lot of compromises. Hard suspension for handling and cornering performance agianst softer suspension for a comfortable ride is only one example. Goldie... The Mk1 was a great car in it's day and pi**ed all over the opposition. Try comparing it with a 70's Honda Civic, for example! It's still a great car and stacks up pretty well against many new millenium Jap and Korean efforts. But it's old technology...particularly in the brakes and engine areas. Most of the users on this forum either can't afford anything but a Mk1 (me included!), love them for their basic strength or tunability if they are into racing/hill climbs etc., or just feel a nostalgic endearment!
Sometimes because of my poor and slow typing I may not come over well.I have owned mk1 Golfs since the 70s and worked on them since the 70's and still own more than one today and yes they are my preference but it was a question on going out and buying one as a secondhand car.The 2 models in question because they are the only ones available are a 76/80 GLS vs MK2 GTI.
The average Mk2 GTi is a better car than the average mk1 which is in most cases because of age below average to a car built in the 90s.I wasn't aiming to make bad friends from my vague statement Ok
but then again a Mk2 GTI is 5 times as expensive and by the time you spend that much money on the Mk1 you have better all round car do you not agree?
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[quote]How much can you pick up golfs for in Aus then ?
mk1, mk1 gti, mk2 gti 8/16v ?
Mk1 4 door 1.6s $100 upward to $3000 for a goodish one
Mk1 GTIs do not exist here except for a few private imports
Mk2 5 door GTIs were brought here from 1990-1992 and had detuned engines. $3000 - $6000
No 16vs except imports or conversions.
As a pom originally, I can confirm the horrid underpowered Mk2s that existed over there. As you say a 1.1 Mk2 with a 4 speed and Golf L spec was a nasty beast. Dont think it had swaybars either Golfwise. I had a 2 door 1.3 Golf 2 over there and that was underpowered and slow. Looked like a GTI by the time I was done, just had no balls.
Where are you based in the UK Gold Mk1. If you want to send us some MK2 GTIs, 16vs or Corrados. I reckon you`d get some takers on here.
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