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  • Steering Racks Mk1 '78

    What opinions do you lot have about "quick" stering racks (in particular for competition use). Is it worth looking at a Quaif or similar 3rd party unit?

    I am a long way off needing the parts as the shell is still being striped, just curious.

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    what style of driving ..tarmac or gravel....i have found on tarmac the std mk1 rack works great although a bit hard on the arms after a few laps..i still use the stk steering wheel for better leverage. On gravel it becomes a different story,it also depends on driving style and more important chassis set up...pwr assist is really neccessary with greater hp and better traction it does become a struggle keeping a golf in a straight line with a tight diff with much more torque steer evident..what a great payoff when your entery speed is much faster into corners and the sound of the engine with left foot buried steering it out closer to the apex...cant wait to get that rush again..cheers steve

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    • #3
      Mainly gravel, PS is not really an option, so I am looking for sugestions as to the "best" manual options. Found a post on the Sirocco forums to fit a 924 rack - any ideas here? I also understand that the 924 control arms are cast alloy and a direct replacement for the mk1 arms.

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      • #4
        gee that 924 rack arms sounds inviting.... ive swaped my stock 78 rack with beleived to be a 78 Gti rack which has about half a turn less lock to lock each side picked it up for $100 with a genuine golf manual, noticable difference as turning whilst moving but in a stand still its really hard to turn, somewhat harder to what it use to be with the stock rack...... i also used another adjustable steering arm for easier adjustment..
        the golf is not dead.

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        • #5
          i have heard a camaria pwr str rack will fit a mk1..with out robbing hp you can use an electric pwr str pump out of a french car...my mk3 uses a quickstr rack with electric pump...only feels a bit strange at first but does the job....was'nt aware the 924 used a diff rack..thought it was golf...but if you can get the part number you can cross ref to the vw etka system and see what other vw product use this rack..this is easy for your local dealer to do..if you dont have any luck i can arrange it for you..cheers steve..ps another lost golf [ball] in the forest

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          • #6
            steering racks

            Dad says Porsche racks look the same but are LH drive ones turned upside down so don't buy one.
            We don't have power steering on our Mirage Race Cars and they use the power steering rack with the PS disconnected and with huge amounts of camber etc they are almost impossible to steer at small speeds or to park but flat out which is what they are designed for they are great.Even Dad has no problems as his arms are puny compared to mine.
            These cars are used for 24 hour races (not ours but others) and we haven't heard of any arm fatigue although Lee Peterson had power steering on his Rally Mirage as they tell me that they are always sideways and need more arm work.Horses for courses I suppose.
            I guess I would build the car first and see if it needs it later.

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            • #7
              were talking golfs here

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              • #8
                Now Now boys play nice
                Sharing the experience of rallying a fwd car far outweighs religious differences
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                • #9
                  It's ok..Steve knows all!!

                  My number one love is the Golf, but many a lesson can be learnt from the setup of a racing Mirage Cup Car. Sadly, no Golf of similar capacity can go anywhere near close to matching it on our local tracks. I race against a 2L 16V Mk1 and am around 2 seconds a lap faster! The 16V may be close to standard, but so too is the Mirage 1600 MIVEC. That is why I went the change of brand for racing purposes. We are in the process of building a MK1 1.8T race car and much of its development will be based on our experience with the Mirages.

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                  • #10
                    stop bickering..... any experience drawn from any car and linked to golfs is fine with me. stop getting at each others throats and enjoy the wealth of knowledge we have here.
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                    • #11
                      Yeah there is a lot of knowledge on here. keep up the good work guys.

                      A camira steering rack eh? anyone got any more info, or is it to Pic and Payless for me?
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                      • #12
                        Steering racks

                        Powersteering racks are sold in the UK can't remember who ,TSR I think.
                        If the Camira racks work one would have to keep that a secret as one couldn't admit to having a Camira part on ones Golf.I actually owned a Camira 20 odd years ago but I won't admit it even under torture.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah I reckon "specialised rebuilt rack" rather than camira.

                          Its really an Opel anyway and so has german heritage. I know the wheels are the same pattern and offset as camira and apparently the front brakes fit. So why not the rack?

                          They were a popular car back in the day in Blighty, but I know you Aussies`d rather have a commodore.
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                          • #14
                            i heard the TSR rack is actually a late 80s fwd nissan bluebird rack.

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                            • #15
                              Quaife deal the quick ratio rack, but I wouldn't run it for street use as the steering becomes even heavier. Golfwise is correct, TSR deal the power steering kit but I understand it's no longer available due to lack of interest. I run the Quiafe kit on my 1979 Mk1 but find it difficult to drive in traffic. Once rolling faster, the benefits are huge, however.

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