Sump cracked. Worried about sump pick up

[datzed]

Ok, so it turns out I've dented the sump, and its leaking at the edge of the snout where the sump bolt is. It was a matter of time, and pretty lucky that sweet bugger all oil was lost.

Issue is very similar to what Spyda had in a post he made with his pic below.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3900/p16100915182371475.jpg

However, the dent I have is the whole way from the front, to the back with the dent maybe 5mm inward. Can anyone comment on how close the oil pick up is and if its in-line with the 'center' of the sump where the scratches are, in the above pic?

Also, any tips on sump removal would also be appreciated. Currently reading the many sump related threads on here. As far as I can tell, its just a matter of unbolding, and bolting back with a clean surface and new gasket goo?

I'm thinking of 'JB Welding' the tiny crack so it doesn't leak and then driving it around here and there until I can source a undamaged sump.

Cheers

[Water Boy]

Changing a sump is no biggy. Just whack some gasket sealnet around there too for home jobo no leaks.

Many people have added extra metal onto there sumps for extra protections.

[datzed]

Cheers. Yeah I'll have to weld on some reinforcement to prevent future cracking I think.

[Jace]

I'm going to be reinforcing my cars sump eventually too. Just going to weld some thick ass plate on there as haggardly as i can.

Good on you for breaking it!

[datzed]

Good on you for breaking it!

Cheers bud. In my mind, it occurred at night and there was sparks everywhere. In reality, it was prolly over a car park speed bump. Cant for the life of me figure out where it occurred.

So consensus around here is to be not too concerned with blocking pick up with the bump as is?

[Peter Jones]

Here's one I prepared earlier.....

[datzed]

Peter, that is an awesome job. I reckon mine will be no where near as clean.

[gldgti]

heh, seems nobody wants to answer your question.

if indeed you've only punched it in 5mm, you should be fine. infact, you do need to make quite a large dent to break off the pickup, but i've seen it done (mk1+ cut springs+ jump = no more oil pressure.)

the furrow from the sump was 25 feet from the launch position

[WABIT]

congratulation! you popped your cherry!

dom

[Peter Jones]

Peter, that is an awesome job. I reckon mine will be no where near as clean.

Cheers, next time though I think I need to extend the plating to around the drain plug.

This went onto Dom's lowered MK1. I don't think he managed to break it

The plates are 3mm thick, I just happened to be in the mood for welding that day.That's my Tandem trailer in pieces on the floor below.

Pete

[Jarred]

I wouldn't be too concerned about the pick up, from memory it had a bit of room.

It's a reasonably easy task. There is one or two bolts that are real tricky to get too though. (I used an old bonnet prop, bent to shape with a socket on the end to get them) but very much DIY able.

Defiantely take the time to get something welded onto the bottom of the 'new' sump, cheap insurance. I think I had pics in my diesels thread, mine wasn't nearly as heavy duty as pete's, but worked never the less. ( I think Pete's one would be better though!)

[Volksee77]

I know it is in pretty bad taste considering your pain but i'm pissing myself laughing at this considering the proud profile avatar you have about how low the mk1 is, Sometimes that low should be for show mate heh heh heh otherwise check out the wreckers and add extra plating to the sump and ensure it braces to the actual top of the sump where the bolt holes are so the plates are reinforced to the actual block.
Luke

[Spyda]

Best thing i ever did was get a proper east-west (mk2,mk3) sump like in Pete's pic and send it to Alexg to get it 'bomb proofed' as he called it.

I dont think i have a pic of mine but its atleast a 10mm thick steel plate welded over the whole bottom of the sump and being Alexg the finish on it was epic, at the moment its scratched up but its taken a few hard wacks and not even close to a dint.

The oil pick up is heeps far away from the bottom of the sump so that should be fine.

Its easy as to change the sump aswell, only too about an hr or so the frist time and taht includes cleaing. The trickest part is geting to the bolts on the gear box side.

I would keep a bottle of oil in the car untill you get it fixed, youd be suprised how much can drip out in a short time.

Found a pic of something similar to mine, its not an 8v sump but you get the idea:

[datzed]

LOL @ the congratulatory posts. Cheers guys.

I know it is in pretty bad taste considering your pain but i'm pissing myself laughing at this considering the proud profile avatar you have about how low the mk1 is, Sometimes that low should be for show mate heh heh heh otherwise check out the wreckers and add extra plating to the sump and ensure it braces to the actual top of the sump where the bolt holes are so the plates are reinforced to the actual block.
Luke

No bad taste at all mate. I know that low stance comes with its negatives. Its kinda why my mind set is 'when, as apposed to if I get my next defect'

Cheers Spyda. So I take it the mk2/mk3 sump is the same as the mk1? Only thing is, there is a mk1 at the wreckers (westall) that I might look at this weekend.

[Spyda]

Cheers Spyda. So I take it the mk2/mk3 sump is the same as the mk1? Only thing is, there is a mk1 at the wreckers (westall) that I might look at this weekend.

As far as i know all 8v sumps are interchangable. There are a couple of SEATs at a wreakers near me, where abouts in melbourne are ya?