mk1 golf goes broom broom

[finemk1]

it was in a heat shrink with the wire that goes from battery + to the large terminal on the alternator 13mm nut... the faulty wire attaches to the smaller terminal on the alternator 8mm nut and goes no where at the mo

[Golf Loon]

I`m suspicious that to starters dont work and you had wiring issues. Have you tried a bridging wire (hotwire)?

[finemk1]

ha ha ha im not that smart... haha love your work, might as well make my own circuit with a push button start..... brilliant..

you the man

[h100vw]

That skinny wire to the 8mm nut should be the excitation for the alternator. Needs to have 12volts on it to make the alternator work. Not sure if they call it B+ on the wiring diagrams.

Gavin

[roccodingo]

it was in a heat shrink with the wire that goes from battery + to the large terminal on the alternator 13mm nut... the faulty wire attaches to the smaller terminal on the alternator 8mm nut and goes no where at the mo

Blue exciter wire comes from the relay / fuse plate, usually "A" terminal block to the alternator stud.
from the relay plate the current track then takes it to D terminal and up to the alternator light in the dash..


U can bypass the relay plate and go straight from the dash Alt lite to the Alt terminal.

HTH

[finemk1]

you dudes are awsome, no doubt about it..

[Golf Loon]

Does it kick over yet?

For hotwiring, connect a wire from the big starter 13mm nut to the small terminal connector on the starter. engine should turn over. Make sure you can disconnect the wire quickly if the car starts.

If you want a push button starter, make that wire into the witch circuit. I have bought many Mk1s that have had a push button starter?? I think its an aussie thing !

[smithy010]

Actually i believe it's because the ignition switches are a bit suspect...

I have to short mine across from time to time. normally after a long run for some reason.

[Golf Loon]

Thts probably the tired plastic switch on the back of the ignition barell.

[finemk1]

ok so i tried a dummy run with a push button as you said loon, it cranked over but slower than usual, so i pulled apart my stering column and things had been hacked at when my alarm and central locking went in but after a bit of solder and tape still no go,, the plastic switch looks fine and i cant see any other probs so i turned to the fuse box DUHHHHHHHH

when ever there is a problem with my golf i allways think its major... ive lent my lesson ALL WAYS CHECK THE FUSES FIRST

3 fuses were blown so i replaced ALL fuses, i found they were sitting in the holders fairly loose which was producing sparks, so i just bent them closer with pliers and whoshka the ignition worked and cranked over, but still at a slow rate

i tried jumping it with my mums buz box and it was turning a little bit faster but still sounded sick, so i put my bat on charge over night and ill try tomorrow night with my mates V8 who i use the last time and it worked then, guess it got a bit more grunt... i have a 575cca battery so it should be more than enough for a kr 16v

stay tuned to this bat station...

[GoLfMan]

i cant wait to see this thing back on the road its been a while!!!

[roccodingo]

ok so i tried a dummy run with a push button as you said loon, it cranked over but slower than usual, so i pulled apart my stering column and things had been hacked at when my alarm and central locking went in but after a bit of solder and tape still no go,, the plastic switch looks fine and i cant see any other probs so i turned to the fuse box DUHHHHHHHH

when ever there is a problem with my golf i allways think its major... ive lent my lesson ALL WAYS CHECK THE FUSES FIRST

3 fuses were blown so i replaced ALL fuses, i found they were sitting in the holders fairly loose which was producing sparks, so i just bent them closer with pliers and whoshka the ignition worked and cranked over, but still at a slow rate

stay tuned to this bat station...

I would seriously check your battery and engine earthing, can be a suspect when the starter cranks slow.. run an earth from the engine to the coil bracket also..But yeah, the ol' MK1 fuse box / relay plate is one major headache ... .

[Golf Loon]

Yeah if you run a fat earth wire from the negative of the battery to one of the bolts that holds the starter on, that should sorth out any earth issues and make it crank over quicker.

Sounds like you are getting closer boy wonder!

[brackie]

i have a 575cca battery so it should be more than enough for a kr 16v

Heaps, mate. I have 630CCA bateries in my Golfs diesels and they turn them over very quickly. I replaced a 575CCA with one of them but the old battery did the job on all but the coldest (-5) mornings. If it can turn a diesel over it can turn yours.

[finemk1]

ok the earth cables are fairly new and so is the starter cable all fat battery cables, i notice the earth strap from the gearbox mount to the chassis was getting hot after a few cranks so i cleaned all the contact points and bat terminals with sand paper which made it crank a fair bit faster with out the earth strap getting hot. but then i noticed the starter motor getting fairly hot.. ive got spark to all plugs and there new plugs too...... i have had the engine running befor i swapped the gear box over but now all this crap,
is it woth it to run seperate earth wires from battery to chassis and battery to engine rather than the battery to engine then strap to chassis

i will move the cable to the starter motor bolt tomorro morn

does any body know what charge the alternator should be putting out for a KR donk?

damn bat mobile wont even start...ill have to run!!