My car is unfortunatly sporting a four speed, and i was wondering if anyone here has heard of/or done a swap for a five speed mk1 or other box. Is it likely to fit easily? What would i need to do it? And most of all, would it be worth it?
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i was considering swapping to 5spd when i did my conversion, but it took me a full day alone to get the 4spd off the original engine, and on to the knew one. I guess when its been on there for 30 years it gets pretty comfortable! All i can say is i certainly wouldnt want to do the conversion while the engine was still in the car! I had my engines on a hoist and it was still hell.
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4 speeds are dud
yeah i got a diesel passat with a 4 speed its great around town but on the open road its crap revs way too hard gets real hot. love to change to a five but don't know where to start.\"mother natures quite a lady but your the lady for me\" - johnny cash.
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I am pretty sure the 4speed and 5 speed 1600 GTIs had the same ratio for top gear so there was nothing to gain in th ecruising dept just better acceleration.
I think that there is a gearbox mount that is different too.
Gavin
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Yeah its easy... the mk2 5 speed box fits straight in. you may need a new bracket for the top mount but loon can hook you up with that he has done it many times before.
A few months ago i put in another 5spd in my golf cos the other one had it, and it wasnt so hard to change it witht he engine still in, i did it by myself. Took me half a day to a day to do.
For $500 its well worth it, you get more punch and better economy. Contact loon
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Originally posted by h100vwI am pretty sure the 4speed and 5 speed 1600 GTIs had the same ratio for top gear so there was nothing to gain in th ecruising dept just better acceleration.
I think that there is a gearbox mount that is different too.
Gavin
It is better to use the 5 speed plate for the bottom of the gearstick or you may have trouble with reverse.
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Your Gearbox is a non GTI 4 speed and will be screaming its head off and ready to come through the bonnet on the freeway. 5 Speed GTI Box has closer 1,2 and 3 ratios and a nice 5th for cruising. Will make your car go heaps faster and have better fuel economy.
All 5 speeds need a different mount, but you can modify your 4 speed one if you are handy with a welder.
I have a nice 5 speed GTI box here for $450 if you are interested, plus $50 for a mount.sigpic Camden GTI Performance. VW / AUDI Specialists
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You can still get them Phill, have 1 coming next container, and i have Sam's sitting here when he works out what to do with it..
I prefer to go with the O2J and change to cable shift these days tho..Lots of MK 1 Scirocco's...
If it aint a MK 1 then it must be a donor car ??
Cheers,
Grant...
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I have to honest, and admit, with the mechanical side of cars, i am clueless. But i do have a 3rd year mechanic for holden who lives accross the road form me, is this a job he would be likely to be able to help me with or will i have to get it done at a trans place.
Secondly, am i going to have to take the engine out, or will it be easier to take the engine out.
Thirdly, me with a welder is a scary thought, so i would need a new mount yeah??
Finally, it will be a couple of months before i do this, as i have spend my hard earned on other devices on the beast.
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Originally posted by syncroI should have said 1600 GTI. 1st is the same in the 4 and 5 speed and 4th is the same as 5th in the 5 speed. I doubt if you would get any of those boxes now.
mollins has one in his 5 door 1800, and it is truely a hoot!'07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
'98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
'99 A4 Quattro 1.8T
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you will need a new mount - loon can supply you with one.
its easy to do the conversion in the car, and easy out. 2 guys can do it in half a day if you know what your doing, and you oughta be able to fluff through it in a whole day with a good manual and the right tools and some help.'07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
'98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
'99 A4 Quattro 1.8T
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