Gotta love Tdi economy

[Greg Roles]

Since the government started offering the $2000 rebate the installers have been charging an extra $1000 - $2000 for an installation.

Well dude you can always wait till the rebate runs out, and it goes back to the same difference!

But yeah it's a bit rude all the same....somewhat like rainwater tanks me thinks. I just got a quote to plumb mine to the dunny, a job I could so easily do myself for about $100, and it was $770....

Any plumbers from Brissie out there?? I'll do all the work, you check it, and charge something a bit more sensible for 10mins of your time???

[bluey]

Multi-cell aluminium tanks look interesting - choose your own size from 102mm thick, multiple width and custom length.

http://www.propaneperformance.com/html/index.htm

Apparently, there are issues with roadworthiness of diesel-LPG systems post 2003.
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21141
To be legal,
a. installation has to be according to the relevant AS1425.
b. a type installation has to be tested/certified to comply with ADR79/00 or ADR79/01 for emissions

To date, none of the diesel-LPG systems has been emissions certified.

Does anyone have any information about the various diesel-LPG systems? - d-gas; dieselgas; dieselongas; ecoshot(powershot USA)

d-gas supplies kits - implying one can self-install perhaps and have the installation certified by an appropriate person or alternatively, do most of the work and leave the final connections and inspection to a licenced person.

[silvershadow]

How good is the MY09 EOS TDI/DSG?

A 500Km trip to Newcastle and back yesterday gave some very interesting fuel consumption results from the trip computer for a vehicle that only has 1500Km on the clock:

Average fuel consumption for entire trip: 4.8 litres/100km [400Km highway, 100km city driving]

Worst average fuel consumption: 5.0 litres/100Km [city peak hour traffic with air-conditioning working continuously]

Best average consumption: 4.6 litres/100Km [40Km of continuous 80 K/hr cruising due to roadwork speed restriction - A/C cycling]

The following link is great for converting fuel consumption/distances from metric to imperial or vice-versa including the UK/US gallon conversion for any international readers:

http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm

TDI/DSG take a bow....... .

[gregozedobe]

TDI/DSG take a bow.......

Before you get TOO excited you might want to fill your tank and calculate what your consumption actully was. VAG cars MFDs are notoriously optimistic (in my TDI's case usually 10-20% better than what my real consumption is).

That said, the TDIs are known to get some really good figures, particularly if you manage to be gentle with the right foot.

[silvershadow]

Before you get TOO excited you might want to fill your tank and calculate what your consumption actully was. VAG cars MFDs are notoriously optimistic (in my TDI's case usually 10-20% better than what my real consumption is).

That said, the TDIs are known to get some really good figures, particularly if you manage to be gentle with the right foot.

I am too old to trust these new-fangled devices .

I am doing an old-fashioned manual consumption check concurrently as well - the car only has 1600Km on the clock so this is for interest only - the real consumption will not be evident until it reaches 20,000+Km.

The MY09 TDI has more torque and almost no traditional diesel noise compared to the MY08 Eos I took for a full day extended test drive before we ordered the car.

[gregozedobe]

I've been working with computers since 1970, so I know from first hand experience that they are only as good as the most useless person involved in the whole process My inner cynic suspects that they are deliberately engineered to be optimistic as a marketing device.

Does the MY09 EOS TDI have the new CR diesel (as different to the previous PD version) ?

[drbass]

Totally agree, feel-good factor!

Correct, CR instead of the PD which is doing great service in my car!

Seeya,
Michael

[silvershadow]

I've been working with computers since 1970, so I know from first hand experience that they are only as good as the most useless person involved in the whole process My inner cynic suspects that they are deliberately engineered to be optimistic as a marketing device.

Does the MY09 EOS TDI have the new CR diesel (as different to the previous PD version) ?

I started in 1966 using punch cards for programming in FORTRAN - if you had one card mis-punched or out-of-sequence, your programme wouldn't run and it took another 24 hours to find out if your corrective action was successful. The computer used valves and was notoriously unreliable and sensitive to temperature/humidity variations.

I would not be surprised if the trip computer was optimistic for owner "feel-good" reasons with the hope that they wouldn't bother doing a manual check to confirm the display readings .

The MY09 is a revised version of the common-rail to improve combustion efficiency and quieten the engine to overcome buyer prejudice to "noisy" diesel engines and to offer an alternative to hybrids which has better performance and fuel consumption close to that of a hybrid in real world driving conditions. The torque and ability of the new TDI to rev quickly is the closest alternative to a petrol V8 I have experienced which pleases me no end .

[gregozedobe]

I started out as an operator - the person who loaded all those card decks in and ran your job for you. If you job bombed and we liked you we would try to fix it for you and run it again, but if you were unpopular we would just send the cards back with the error report ie too bad, so sad (we weren't officially supposed to touch the programmer's code).

To get back onto topic, the people in the UK that have been getting the new CRs in their Skodas seem to really like them, much more refined and revvy than the PD version.

[Seano]

I'm still quite chuffed with the old PD.

My 01 T4 Syncro Dual Cab has just been getting better and better with time. After 130,000km, this large, ungainly and heavy vehicle is still able to get around our regional town on the daily 50km round trip commute for the best part of 900km....and use only a bit over 73 litres of fuel.

This equates to just 8.2 litres/100km.

Not bad for a rig as big, as heavy and almost as off road capable as a 75 series landcruiser ute...

....why would I need common rail?

[gregozedobe]

Not bad for a rig as big, as heavy and almost as off road capable as a 75 series landcruiser ute...

Having owned a 75 series landcruiser ute I'd have to say that in this instance the word "almost" covers a fair bit of territory , particularly if rough, rocky fire trails with rock ledges are part of the performance requirement. But to be fair, the 4.5litre petrol engine I had in mine liked to guzzle fuel nearly as quickly as it went down the road (and it went pretty fast )

....why would I need common rail?

So long as you are happy it is all good

[CatonaPC©]

Now four weeks since delivery and I filled up the second time today. Result 6.9 Litres/100km. That's mainly city driving with some freeway driving. It has just ticked over 1000k.

I am impressed.

[gldgti]

in the last week i got 882km off 48L.... 5.5l/100km on B100.

[CatonaPC©]

B100? You brew your own or you buy it from somewhere?

[MrTurkey]

last tank, 800kms for 48 litres

6l/100 avg

MY09 Jetta TDI DSG

I did see on my trip computer average 4.8 l/100 on my way to work yesterday though. (about 20kms 90% freeway)

Still running in I guess, just clocked 2500kms total since pickup on 12 November.