Golf bluemotion now here.

[neil]

A couple of good articles in the SMH however not a good writeup for the bluemoton.
Just beats the prius for fuel efficiency but I'm thinking this hybrid and EV technology is
going to be the way of the future.
Done some searching on Priuschat and some guy's are down to 2L/100km with an
extender kit.

First Drive: Volkswagen Golf BlueMotion

[poyta]

I'm thinking this hybrid and EV technology is
going to be the way of the future.

Not if they keep making these hybrids so bloody ugly.

[gldgti]

Fuel economy savings you get by plugging your car into the wall at home do not count - especially when you have enormous transmission losses from the power station to the home.

The only time that counts is if you are getting your electricity from a renewable source.

I wont go into my rant about how ridiculous it is to expend so much energy producing something like that in the first place either... or my other rant about people thinking they are saving the planet by buying a new car....

the single best thing anyone of us can do is to use a car that already exists for much longer, and make it a pretty economical one.

ok.... not..rant.. off.

[Corey_R]

I'm thinking this hybrid and EV technology is
going to be the way of the future.

Not if they keep making these hybrids so bloody ugly.

And not until they get Nuclear power plants in Australia to replace the Coal...

[Julian Edgar]

My hybrid, first released over a decade ago, can get 2.8 litres/100km on a long commute...

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Or it could before the HV battery got tired - and there-in lies another point of course!

[gldgti]

And not until they get Nuclear power plants in Australia to replace the Coal...

>>deep involuntary shudder at the thought<<

[gldgti]

My hybrid, first released over a decade ago, can get 2.8 litres/100km on a long commute...

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Or it could before the HV battery got tired - and there-in lies another point of course!

Whats the lifetime fuel consumption though?

[Halcyon]

Read in an Ecos magazine (CSIRO) once that the total energy use for a diesel Hummer that did 500,000 kms would be less than the several hybrids it would take to do that distance. Total energy includes making the metal, plastics etc. plus all the fuel and oils...everything. Batteries for hybrids soak up a lot of resources.
500,000kms is a big ask, but then I have a friend with a Patrol which has done 300,000 kms and is still on the original clutch.

[Julian Edgar]

Read in an Ecos magazine (CSIRO) once that the total energy use for a diesel Hummer that did 500,000 kms would be less than the several hybrids it would take to do that distance. Total energy includes making the metal, plastics etc. plus all the fuel and oils...everything. Batteries for hybrids soak up a lot of resources.

Actually, I thought that statistic was subsequently very clearly debunked (ie the premise was false: most Hummers don't do 500,000km, Prius HV batteries are usually recycled - ie comparison should be based around what actually happens in real world).

[Julian Edgar]

Whats the lifetime fuel consumption though?

Display shows 4.4 l/100km

[gldgti]

i wonder how that compares to logging actual usage?

anyway... golf bluemotion - yay. in 20 years maybe i'll get one.