Fuel: Where do you guys get your Diesel?

[sTeeDi]

Just want to know where you guys buy your fuel?

My car was in for service and the Service Centre thinks that the starting problems I have are because of "a bad batch of diesel"

So I'm interested in knowing where you guys fill up....I live in Metro Sydney, but hey, if it helps others, why not say which Servo's you guys go to.

I've only filled up 3 times, all at BPs

Wetherill Park, Horsley Drive
Seven Hills, just off the exit of the M2
North Rocks (opposite the Westfields on north rocks road).

All three of them didn't have the hi-flo pumps....so I've yet to experience dribbling in fuel to my car.

[ope126]

I used to own an Astra CDTi, I would only ever fill up at a BP outlet (not 7-eleven) as in QLD they stock the Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel 10ppm.

You can do a search on the BP website for locations that stock this Diesel, most competitors only have 50ppm Diesel.

Glenn

[sTeeDi]

d'oh! Based on the BP website, i have to leave Metro NSW to get any hint of the ULSD 10ppm.

Hmmmm good excuse for a drive.

[gldgti]

i dont think using regular diesel will hurt your new tdi's guys - sulfur is added to diesel to improve its lubricity, so using normal sulfur diesel, though increasing sulfur emissions to the environment, wont hurt your car.

i mostly use mobil diesel, its very consistent and i would say i get the best power using that. -
i buy from:

berowra mobil, on the old pacific hwy
caltex, edgeworth
shell, hexham

all these outlets have hi-flow - places that sevice trucks have a good rate of turnover of diesel and will usually have good quality fuel.

also, look carefully at the servo's your at - its very rare for a servo to have hi-flow and no regular diesel pump.

cheers

aydan

[mikinoz]

I used to own an Astra CDTi, I would only ever fill up at a BP outlet (not 7-eleven) as in QLD they stock the Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel 10ppm.

You can do a search on the BP website for locations that stock this Diesel, most competitors only have 50ppm Diesel.

Glenn

10ppm = best for environment and your health!

BP 10ppm FTW!

[Rod_H]

I try to use BP, and if I can't get that Mobil
I will not use caltex or any of those no name crap fuel joints...
Forgot! Shell lost me when there Optimax fuel turned to crud a few years ago. and our local shell is run by a bunch of monkeys that has turned me off shell products for years to come...

[DutchAussie]

i dont think using regular diesel will hurt your new tdi's guys - sulfur is added to diesel to improve its lubricity, so using normal sulfur diesel, though increasing sulfur emissions to the environment, wont hurt your car.

aydan

Slight correction. Sulphur is not added to any fuel, it is removed. The oil refineries desulphurise their fuels up to the required Australian Standards.

What ends up in your tank depends on the honesty of the people between the Refinery Gate and the place where you put it in your tank.

There are crooks in every business.

[gldgti]

Slight correction. Sulphur is not added to any fuel, it is removed. The oil refineries desulphurise their fuels up to the required Australian Standards.

fair point, you are correct of course. i submit to your wisdom and humbly apologise.

[thefullback]

A bit of inside info for you guys.Only 2 refineries in sydney, I know for sure BP tankers and independants load at shell.There are strict quality controls applied to diesel sulphur ppm and its tested many times before loading.there is no 10 ppm made in sydney yet, it may be imported. A lubricity agent is added to the diesel to compensate for loss of sulphur, it looks like the old STP. All diesel leaves the refinery < 48ppm some batches less than others. I have heard of whole tanks being reprocessed when tested at 52ppm.
I have recently had a lot of trouble with premium fuel of all brands and believe some servos are cutting premium fuel in the tanks, same could be happening with diesel.
i have no interest in sticking up for big oil but i know for sure 99.0% of the time only quality products leave

[neil]

Hi Guys.
Had to have my fuel injector in my rodeo resealed due to the
introduction of low sulphur fuel a few years back. The original was
designed for sulphur to lubricate the seals.
All seals, rubber which comes into contact with current low sulphur
diesel I imagine would be designed to except this fuel.
Neil.

[origin]

Hi Guys,

I am concerning about this diesel.

Is it harm to our body the surlphur?

Is it possible to get cancer (ex : lung) ? If you are using diesel car..

I am thinking to keep this diesel car for at least 10 years but if it is high risk for my health and my family. I better sell it off..

Thanks for any reply

Cheers

origin

[Bazzamon]

diesel fumes

I am continuosly amazed at the lack of diesel smell from my '07 1.9l Golf. Apart from the occasional whiff when first starting up I really cant detect any smell. The stuff that gets up my nose is those 15yo Landcruisers when following them up a hill!.... Bazz

[thefullback]

50 ppm, that is parts per million, on stream analysers to measure this cost over $250,000, were not talking lots of sulphur here, 10 ppm due around 2008, dont know the exact date. prior to 50 ppm being introduced sulphur content was over 1000 ppm and not even measured, this is all part of govt clean fuels policy.
Dont believe there is any danger from 50 ppm and even less from 10ppm. n: In fact our **** diesel stopped the introduction of euro diesel cars for some years.:
From what I know making 50 ppm has cost the sydney refineries (shell, caltex) over 50 million, 10 ppm will add another 15 to that bill.

[gldgti]

Hi Guys,

I am concerning about this diesel.

Is it harm to our body the surlphur?

Is it possible to get cancer (ex : lung) ? If you are using diesel car..

I am thinking to keep this diesel car for at least 10 years but if it is high risk for my health and my family. I better sell it off..

Thanks for any reply

Cheers


origin

no.

diesel is perfectly safe, you will not get cancer from owning a diesel car. infact, you are bettering the environment by driving one - just trust me.

the thing is, all cars produce noxious fumes. petrol and diesel, gas etc. oil derived fuels have exhaust smoke that is harmful - but diesel smoke is visible, so we all have a go at it.

if you want safe exhaust fumes, run it on bio-diesel from a reputable supplier.

some facts about diesel exhaust emissions and using bio-diesel:

> biodiesel is a high oxygen fuel - it burns more completely, and so produces less combustion bi-products.

> as little as 20% biodiesel mixed with diesel fuel will reduce NOx emissions (causes acid rain and smog) by 70%.

> using biodiesel reduces black smoke particulate emissions between 10-60%.

> biodiesel has extremely good lubricity and hence causes less wear in sensitive components. it is a low sulfur fuel.



if you plan to keep your car for 10 years or more, you are to be commended! if everyone kept their cars twice as long, do you know how much less energy the world would need to produce? it is staggering. well done!

[Altered Sprinter]

ULSD BP 10ppm already on sale in most states check which service station has it
Shell either has or is about to release it BP, is almost two years in advance of Federal mandates
Released by refineries due to Euro4 exhaust systems and the new EGR systems that are required to run on ULSD with bio fuels B20
Warning Winters on the Go Vic and NSW will be using winter fuels , high in sulfur and kerosene mix poor lubricity, use upper cylinder lubricants synthetic only and high quality.
Cancer indicators on new Diesel are not a concern unless your high on the sniff with your snuffle box, then again if the latter! your a 'Dead Man Walking"
I'd be more concerned as to solvent Toxins in your work place environment.
Richard
Winter diesel problems