Manual or DSG

[shaker]

Hi All,
I am looking at buying an EOS and have only been able to get a drive of a manual gearbox version. While this was a great drive, I am wondering if anybody could give me their exxperiences driving a manual versus the DSG car. I am worried the DSG will not be as exciting to drive?

[VW Convert]

Hi All,
I am looking at buying an EOS and have only been able to get a drive of a manual gearbox version. While this was a great drive, I am wondering if anybody could give me their exxperiences driving a manual versus the DSG car. I am worried the DSG will not be as exciting to drive?

I have DSG in my Jetta and love it. It is quite uniqe to drive being a computer controlled manual rather than an automatic and it definitely does not feel like a conventional automatic.

Light throttle upshifts are almost imperceptable but give it a bit of stick and the absence of interruption to acceleration during gearchanges is quite remarkable. It is not a perfect transmission, it does occasionally appear to become hesitant with downshifts to second but on highway kickdown for overtaking is to all intents and purposes instantaneous.

My suggestion would be to ask your dealer for a drive of a Golf or Jetta with DSG and a similar engine to the Eos you are considering, this would give you something to compare against.

Cheers

George

[anarchycamp]

The only way to decide is to drive one....we could say anything and everyone has their preferences.

You might get bored of a DSG box, but i drive a Manual during the week and DSG at the weekends at the moment and still enjoy the novelty of DSG occasionaly.

What kind of driving do you do mainly? City Traffic? OPen Road?

[shaker]

Unfortunately I sit in bumper to bumper traffic for 45 minutes every morning driving along Lane Cove Rd in Sydney (uphill to make things worse), and at present drive a manual. This is my reason for looking at the DSG as you can imagine how many times my foot is on and off the clutch during my commute. Having said that I like a bit of spirited driving through the National Park south of Sydney and want a car that is interesting to push along.

[Guy_H]

Unfortunately I sit in bumper to bumper traffic for 45 minutes every morning driving along Lane Cove Rd in Sydney (uphill to make things worse), and at present drive a manual. This is my reason for looking at the DSG as you can imagine how many times my foot is on and off the clutch during my commute. Having said that I like a bit of spirited driving through the National Park south of Sydney and want a car that is interesting to push along.

In that case a DSG would be the go for you. The manual is great, but in heavy traffic the DSG wins hands down

[VW Convert]

Having said that I like a bit of spirited driving through the National Park south of Sydney and want a car that is interesting to push along.

Easy, get a demo vehicle and do that exact run, I did it last week in mine, was a great drive but watch out for the guys on their pushbikes!

Cheers

George

[Mischa]

Unfortunately I sit in bumper to bumper traffic for 45 minutes every morning driving along Lane Cove Rd in Sydney (uphill to make things worse), and at present drive a manual. This is my reason for looking at the DSG as you can imagine how many times my foot is on and off the clutch during my commute. Having said that I like a bit of spirited driving through the National Park south of Sydney and want a car that is interesting to push along.

sounds like me. i bought a dsg originally because of traffic. worst decision ever and now im back in a manual and love it

dont get me wrong the dsg is the BEST auto money can buy, but its nothing compared to the excitement and driving pleasure of a manual

i learnt to hate the dsg and the pushy over controlling computer

[95vr6]

DSG box wins hands down, run in auto mode around town then shift into "S" mode the gearbox is totally different, then shift into manual mode for more controll . If only i could order one for my new T5.

[shaker]

I don't think the EOS has paddle shifts for the DSG which is a bit of a shame as it takes some of the fun out of it. Might just stick with a manual and stop complaining about driving in stop/start taffic.

[Mischa]

I don't think the EOS has paddle shifts for the DSG which is a bit of a shame as it takes some of the fun out of it. Might just stick with a manual and stop complaining about driving in stop/start taffic.

good choice

[VW Convert]

I don't think the EOS has paddle shifts for the DSG which is a bit of a shame as it takes some of the fun out of it. Might just stick with a manual and stop complaining about driving in stop/start taffic.

The Jetta doesn't have them either but it is still fun to use as a manual whenever I feel so inclined. IMHO it would be a shame to make such a decision without even driving a DSG.

Cheers

George

[briseos]

DSG is the best of all worlds

I have had a Golf 2.0TDi with DSG and fell in love with it. The DSG is especially brilliantly matched to the diesel engine with all that beautiful torque.

Now, I have the EOS with the DSG also in the 2.0TDi and it is even better. The EOS diesel engine and general build quality is a quantum leap above my golf (2005 GenV) and the DSG makes life sooooo good.... the point being that the DSG allows you to have as much or little control as you like whenever you desire.

In traffic, with the Diesel (cannot speak for the petrol), the DSG will allow you to roll quietly along in the traffic up quite a gradient at idle without any problems, then you are away and picking any gaps you need with minimal effort. When you get into the back streets, you can use manual mode (would love the paddles) and become a speed demon.... then back into auto in the traffic. On the open road, the DSG is brilliant - economical, on the ball and never faults....

I must say, however, that the way you use your right foot is distinctly different to a normal auto in that it learns your style, and prefers a gentle change in intent... it is very good at interpreting your intent as long as you are consistent and will reward your consistency with a version of ESP that is not related to traction control..... the issue here is that you will not master it on a few short test drives but I guarantee you will learn to love it and never go back..... especially if you combine it with the creamy torque and economy of the diesel..... soooo quiet in the EOS it is unbelievable.... and driving with the top off lends itself to the cruisy attitude that the DSG offers should you so desire....

[OilBurna]

good writeup briseos I agree, you need to be consistent and firm with your driver style and more of a gradual adjustment with the accelerator rather than stabbing it etc.. it is a brilliant box when you consider what and how it does it, gearchanges are seamless compared to my mates six speed heavy slow vehicle (HSV)

post some pics of the eos. looking at getting one for the other half.

[Golf Houso]

Manual... Quickly before Mercedes and the VAG group kill it off for good!

[briseos]

Pretty car attached..... bloody love it and goes like stink now - up to 12,500ks and just loosening up the diesel.... should chip it as soon as I can convince the missus.....