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  • VWR Springs

    While I know this is a topic that has been obviously done many times I haven't been able to find too much local information on VWR springs for the mk6 GTI (plenty of positive stuff from the USA).

    What I am after is feedback from anyone who has had these put on their mk6, particularly ride quality v stock and any issues with rubbing etc especially either with rear passengers and/or significant luggage in the back, and I guess the issues of rear rake.

    Am looking for that 20-25mm drop which I understand causes no issues with the rest of the stock components, I'm aware of the DG springs and various local commentary on them, but I guess for looks (at least stationery!) would probably prefer the lower drop on VWRs or similar.

    --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
    2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
    2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
    2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

  • #2
    I've had them installed in my Skoda Octavia VRS (2L Turbo) which is MKV suspension and TSI engine
    The box the VMR springs came in says "for MKV/MKVI"

    There is no risk of rubbing at all - even at the rear

    If you are concerned about ride quality, it's likely they may not be for you
    They are in fact noticeably firmer - I was initially surprised and wondered if I had made a mistake
    I got used to it quickly however - you will find passengers will notice the firmness (most won't like it)
    2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
    APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
    APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
    Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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    • #3
      I don't have an issue if it's not too much firmer, I would expect that generally any drop would result in some increase in firmness.

      I wonder if they became a little more compliant as they settled in?

      I was just hoping for something that would drop the car a little without being too harsh.. was there any noticeable reduction in body roll?

      --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
      2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
      2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
      2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
        I wonder if they became a little more compliant as they settled in?

        I was just hoping for something that would drop the car a little without being too harsh.. was there any noticeable reduction in body roll?
        Funny you should mention settling in!
        I've had the springs for 1 week now,
        driving to work this morning I braced myself for a firm ride
        To my surprise, the ride today was not as harsh as last week!
        I was thinking I was going to have to eat my words of caution - lol
        Make no mistake, it's still a pretty firm ride that would not be described as comfortable
        But I'm finding it less harsh and easy to live with (having a motorsport mindset)

        I installed APR roll bars at the same time
        They have made a really good improvement in hard cornering - car remains very flat and nicely balanced
        I doubt you will get much roll improvement from just springs

        Here is my car with the VMR springs ~20mm+ lower

        Last edited by Martin; 29-01-2013, 08:40 AM.
        2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
        APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
        APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
        Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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        • #5
          Ha, maybe there's a little more settling in still to go, but interesting to get local feedback because the US forums pretty much all say it's comparable to stock - although they may also have different stock settings to us in the first place.

          I may need to consider the sway bar option as well.

          Is there any option then to get a little drop without adversely affecting ride too much?

          --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
          2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
          2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
          2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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          • #6
            Yes - apparently US run softer spring rates

            I'm not aware of any ride height drop options that won't change ride comfort
            Shocks with adjustable ride height typically use linear springs rather than progressive springs
            These shocks are going to be ~$1,200 and will give a firmer ride
            2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
            APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
            APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
            Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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            • #7
              Ahh that may explain that then (although if they went from softer springs to the VWRs you'd expect they'd whinge more).

              Have been exploring the adjustable coil-overs route, just thinking they're overkill for my needs, especially given the jump up in costs.

              I know there are some other alternatives out there, the DG springs that WhiteJames uses, and a few of the others are on Eibach etc. just seemed an easy option to pick something off the shelf.

              BTW, love that Octavia, the height looks good and the black wheels on grey is working for me.

              --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
              2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
              2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
              2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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              • #8
                I've had my VWR Springs in now for about 7,000kms.
                When I first had them installed, I noticed they were immediately quite a bit firmer than stock.
                I don't know about them settling, but I just think I am used to it now. It's not uncomfortable at all though.
                I had my H&R rear sway installed at the same time, and roll and pitch are definitely reduced and handled better.
                No issues with rubbing with 4 people on board.
                The drop in height looks great too.
                If you don't mind abit of added firmness, then they're really good.
                T Go
                MY11.5 Golf GTI | Bluefin Stage 2 | Pipercross Stage 2 Intake Pipe | AFE Pro 5R Filter | SPM Downpipe | VWR Sport Springs | H&R 22mm RSB | R LED Tail Lights

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T Go View Post
                  I've had my VWR Springs in now for about 7,000kms.
                  When I first had them installed, I noticed they were immediately quite a bit firmer than stock.
                  I don't know about them settling, but I just think I am used to it now. It's not uncomfortable at all though.
                  I had my H&R rear sway installed at the same time, and roll and pitch are definitely reduced and handled better.
                  No issues with rubbing with 4 people on board.
                  The drop in height looks great too.
                  If you don't mind abit of added firmness, then they're really good.
                  Thanks for that, I can handle a firmer ride if it doesn't reach the stage of being uncomfortable.. also good to know the ride height isn't an issue for rubbing. Don't often carry people in the back, but figured a couple of suitcases on a holiday trip could be an issue if driving became enthusiastic.

                  Sounds like I may need to consider some sway bars then as well.. something else to research!

                  --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                  2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                  2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                  2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                  • #10
                    Anyone have APR/VWR springs in their Golf MK6?

                    Hey there guys,was wondering if anyone has tried out the springs that APR bring in,they advertise them being VWR springs and recon they have no damaging effects using them with standard MK6 GTI shocks??
                    P.s some pics would be great of the finished product if you have some.

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                    • #11
                      It was discussed here

                      2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                      APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                      APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                      Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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                      • #12
                        cheers, the skoda looks great!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gtimike View Post
                          Hey there guys,was wondering if anyone has tried out the springs that APR bring in,they advertise them being VWR springs and recon they have no damaging effects using them with standard MK6 GTI shocks??
                          P.s some pics would be great of the finished product if you have some.
                          Would love to comment and show some pics but......... still haven't committed yet - unfortunately in Adelaide the two places that flog VWR springs clearly have absolutely no interest in selling them (emails and phone calls all ignored).

                          --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                          2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                          2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                          2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                          • #14
                            Just a follow up to my own post.. finally got in touch with a local dealer for VWR springs and looks like I will head down this path. Just a couple of queries:

                            - got confirmation of now rubbing issues even with a loaded car, any issues with ground clearance.. I've been lowered on other cars before so fully aware that you need to be careful on spoon drains and the like, any issues with things like car park ramps or speed humps? I've read all the White James stuff on the DG springs where issues of rub or clearance with people/gear in the back are raised.

                            - also considering the sway bar mod, it seems like most are adding new front and rear, though some are opting just for rear.. I understand the basics on sway bars but am curious as to the reasoning for these choices?

                            - following on from this, I have read a few threads on sizing, I'm not after anything extreme, so would appear the H&R 22mm is the option here, I see Whiteline also do a sway bar but it appears to be at 20mm only.. thoughts?

                            Any feedback appreciated. As per earlier posts I am keen on the aesthetics of lower springs, but also looking for some minor handling upgrades for road use.

                            --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                            2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                            2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                            2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                            • #15
                              I have a tow bar that will hit the road if I drive in/out of a driveway with a deep vee
                              This problem obviously became worse after installing the VWR springs (~20mm drop)
                              You have to reduce speed, it's not a clearance problem, it's a bounce problem

                              No problem with people and gear loaded in the rear

                              The special bushes that come with the roll bar squeek - especially in the wet

                              Diameter of the roll bar is not the only metric that defines it's strength
                              My VRS Octavia had a 24mm roll bar as stock (I think the GTI has a fatter than normal one also)
                              So you wouldn't want to pick a 22mm roll bar unless it's thicker or longer etc
                              The VWR roll bar is 30% stronger than stock - that's why I went for it
                              2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                              APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                              APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                              Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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