Mk3 Suspension race set up...

[Water Boy]

Ok Dubbers,

If u want to set a Mk3 (non-VR6) up for track use can u guys shout out a few ideas... Who makes what sways bars, coilovers packages etc... And costs links what ever... I would like to get a list together and som of your ideas for when i get my Mk3...

Cheers James

[rayray086]

I'm currently going to run Koni struts with Ground Control sleeves running 300/250 lb F/R Eibach springs. They will be height adjustable from 0"-2.5" so they will be ideal for street and/or track. They're being sent from America right now; I have heard from many sources that they are great on the autocross as you can custom order the spring rates. Eibach makes them specifically for the GC kit. The Konis are damper adjustable.

I'll be getting a Neuspeed rear sway bar from Rennenhaus - I'm holding this off until some time next year. I've been quoted in the high $300 range for the 25mm one. There's also a 28mm available. They come with drop links and polyurethane bushings for their joints and are three-step adjustable (from 288-376 lb quoted from website). Neuspeed has front sway bars as well, but I'm thinking of just using the standard sway bar.

I've got an Eibach flat strut bar waiting in my room to go on. Picked it up for a very good price from Steve. Waiting til I can be bothered relocating the coolant bottle before I fit it on. Not expecting much difference with it on though, but it looks awesome haha.

I don't know what to do with the bushings and mounts. I might just use the stock ones as the car's a daily driver. The car has yet to see the track/skidpan but I'd like to have a go at autocross!

[MattyT]

One word: STaSIS

Perhaps another two to go with it: Bank Robbery.

In all seriousness though, I'm researching this myself but for a Mk3 VR6. So far nuespeed sway + strut bars, KW coilover suspension and possibly prothane bushings are the go. Not sure with the bushes though. Must research more.

[peedman]

What about brakes too? I know after a run at the mountains the stock brakes arent up to much. Even new rotors and pads wouldnt hurt but a vr6 brake swap would be ideal and easy to do.

[MattyT]

Brakes?

DBA Slotted rotors + Ferodo DS2500 pads. They'll suffice for your weekend warrior track days.

[Water Boy]

What about brakes too? I know after a run at the mountains the stock brakes arent up to much. Even new rotors and pads wouldnt hurt but a vr6 brake swap would be ideal and easy to do.

Thats under control mate

[rayray086]

I got my GC sleeves today. Will be installing them this weekend ; )

[Water Boy]

Very nice for sure... That is some dub porn rite there...

[vwthunder]

I just put some KW's in, and will also order a 25mm Neuspeed bar. They are not that expensive and the Aussie dollar is doing so well.

Did control arm bushes and also need to do tie rod ends.
Dont think there is that much more I can do, it comes down to getting it set up right, which I am having a real hard time finding someone who knows what they are doing.

Getting onto the brakes, if it is not a VR6, well your not going to be going that quickly lol. Why dont you look at putting VR6 brakes on it, means you will have to change to a 5X100 stud pattern. So many people wrecking VR6's on here

[rayray086]

Exactly what I'm doing right now hehe. My head was thinking more towards the 5 lug pattern than the better stopping power though when I first got them.

[KI11Z]

if its any use, my old vr6 brakes were smokin many a mountin run and twice ended up with literally no brakes due to heat fade!! if u upgrade your brakes go after market, especially if your gunna track it! theres plenty of 4 stud upgrades out there . . .

[DubSteve]

At the moment I have the KW V2 on the car, I am also looking into front and rear strut bars aswell as sways, but haven't found the right sway bars that I want, and also my money tree needs to grow a little more

At the moment I have slottled 288mm disks, however I am considering on going to the 312mm brake kits, alot more stopping power and I have seen them on another vr6 they don't look bad! However I don't want to lose the slotted look its awesome

There is a point where it can be too much, I recently did the Wisemans ferry run and I was infront of a Audi A4 Quattro2T the whole time, he struggled to keep up with me once I hit the corners coming out more efficient and with pace to spare. This was just with the coilovers set to a little stiffer than medium (quarter turn).

[Water Boy]

For sway bars u would rin a 28mm on the back but what size on the front?

Also where do u get Neuspeed bars cheap?

[vwthunder]

At MJM Autohaus the 25mm one is 234.95

As you said which is better to get the 25mm or 28mm?

Opinions

[rayray086]

Generally a stiffer sway bar would mean a stiffer chassis, reducing the amount of weight transfer when going through a corner. This makes for more predictable control over your car, and I'd take a good guess that that's what you want in a race-spec car. However, this would also result in harsher ride quality, so a really thick sway bar would generally be undesireable in a street car.

Neuspeed is American-based, and the only Australian distributor I know of is Rennenhaus in Newcastle. You can purchase direct from Neuspeed and have them ship it over but something of that size would be bloody expensive. I talked to Ian from Rennenhaus and he has given me a rough price of $389AUD not inc. GST pick-up from European Autotech.

On another note, shaneth is organising a group buy on Whiteline sway bars. Pedro expressed interest for the Mk3 rear sway bar, and found out that they have 22mm adjustable ones. The price though is $190 + $20 shipping, which is essentially half the price of the Neuspeed sway bar. I'd really want a 25mm or even 28mm but I just can't ignore the pricing of the Whiteline sway bar...