MY12 Tig - RNS510 and RVC question (no projection lines?)

[Aurange_Tiguan]

Posting this on behalf of a mate of mine. Has anyone else taken delivery of a MY12 Tig - ordered with factory fitted rear view camera (RVC) - only to find out it doesn't have the advertised yellow steering-projection lines?

On top of that, the camera quality is quite blurry.

Apparently there were issues last year with the RVC components due to the Japanese tsunami. Not sure if VW applied a single alternative source for RVC to all cars, but my mate has a fairly inferior camera fitted and the dealer claims this is the OEM option that he ordered. Is the steering-projection line a feature that can be switched on, or is there a component missing between the camera at the back and the RNS510?

If anyone has more info on this or anyone facing a similar issue, I'd be keen to hear about it. Obviously waiting a significant while for a Tiguan, only to have it arrive in a condition other than advertised/claimed/paid for is pretty poor on VW's part.

[ralp2dam]

Sounds like the dealer has fitted it themselves. I would be surprised if it came out of the factory like that.

[Aurange_Tiguan]

i get that impression too. I had expected more of an OEM setup. i got an after market setup that works far better, so it seems the dealership has made a fair profit, seeing how much the RVC option costs. sounds dodgy to me

[Taz]

Hi Aurange_Tiguan,

Like ralp2dam, I also think that the dealer fitted the RVC themselves. I was told by my dealer when ordering mine that the projection lines on dealer fitted RVC are fixed. I can't tell you about the resolution since I haven't seen any in action.

[tigger73]

If you want to know if it was factory fitted or not... check the sticker in wheel well under the boot floor (you'll likely have to take the spare and styrofoam insert out). All the factory fitted options are on the sticker. If it's not on there then the dealer would have fitted it themselves.

To decode your option codes go to VW Group Option Codes Decoder and put the 3 digit codes in and should pop out with the factory fitted model options.

Something like this is quite possibly dealer fitted. They've probably got a vehicle with "close" spec and added the missing options.

Good luck.

[Captain Bungers]

i get that impression too. I had expected more of an OEM setup. i got an after market setup that works far better, so it seems the dealership has made a fair profit, seeing how much the RVC option costs. sounds dodgy to me

Sorry for being a bit off topic, however I'm interested in what you got as an aftermarket set up?

[dmn]

Hi guys - Sorry if I appear to be hijacking this thread (not intentional) but didn't really want to start a new one when there is quite a bit of info on this anyway...I currently have the MY11 147 which has the RNS510 and have been thinking of grabbing the RVC and Bluetooth kit from this guy in Ireland -- has anyone else grabbed anything from him as he's been around for a while...

The OEM RVC is here
The OEM VW Premium Bluetooth device is here

so a couple of things I am aware that the Bluetooth kit needs to be hooked into a computer to be activated so does this need to be done by the dealer or is there somewhere else in Canberra where this can done...the dealer that fitted my towbar wiring tried to skimp out on a proper hookup and stuffed up the wiring so really don't want to go anywhere near them - and what about the RVC, are these an easy fit but from what I have read some wires need to be cut so I am presuming this also needs to be activated as well? - would welcome any tips/advice.

Also, I came across this which is the full RNS510 system with GPS - are these just a straight swap-over apart from securing a few things under dash (gps antenna etc) OR are there major mods required...from what I can see/read its pretty straight forward but then again...

Also, on the MY11 147 where does the mic go for the BT device or is it inbuilt?

thanks for any further tips

[Aurange_Tiguan]

Sorry for being a bit off topic, however I'm interested in what you got as an aftermarket set up?

I got a Zenec headunit and reverse camera, as per my sig. The camera clarity is superior - at least compared to what my mate's dealership claims as OEM.

[hippyhippy]

what firmware do you have in your rns510? make sure you have a later one.

[dmn]

Posting this on behalf of a mate of mine. Has anyone else taken delivery of a MY12 Tig - ordered with factory fitted rear view camera (RVC) - only to find out it doesn't have the advertised yellow steering-projection lines?

On top of that, the camera quality is quite blurry.

Apparently there were issues last year with the RVC components due to the Japanese tsunami. Not sure if VW applied a single alternative source for RVC to all cars, but my mate has a fairly inferior camera fitted and the dealer claims this is the OEM option that he ordered. Is the steering-projection line a feature that can be switched on, or is there a component missing between the camera at the back and the RNS510?

If anyone has more info on this or anyone facing a similar issue, I'd be keen to hear about it. Obviously waiting a significant while for a Tiguan, only to have it arrive in a condition other than advertised/claimed/paid for is pretty poor on VW's part.

Hi - I was doing a bit of sniffing around trying to find out further info on RVC for my tiggy (see my post a couple above this) and come a cross a site that stated there were 2 types of VW RVCs - a premium one that has the yellow steering projection lines and a standard version that doesn't - hope that helps

[hippyhippy]

that doesnt make sense because the yellow and green guide lines are a function of the rns510 and not the camera, isnt the camera just a simple video in line?

[Aurange_Tiguan]

that doesnt make sense because the yellow and green guide lines are a function of the rns510 and not the camera, isnt the camera just a simple video in line?

It would make sense that the projection lines are superimposed on the video feed by the RNS510 because it monitors steering direction already. This same function is what allows it to keep track of where it is going even when satellite coverage is lost. Can anyone confirm whether there needs to be some setting changed in the RNS510 to get this to display?

Obviously the accuracy would vary with different cameras, as these have different fields of view. Even if the projection lines could be switched on somehow, there's no knowing whether the projection lines are correct to the particular camera fitted to my mate's Tig.

[alanzidane]

The projection line is coming from a part. which it will combine the signal from camera and Can-Bus for the projection line. I got a 2012 tig with oem RVC, the projection line is come with it. But when I am doing some research for a RVC of the Scirocco, looks like the projection line is not available because of the unavailable part.

[LunchboxVRS]

I have been trying to researdh this one too. from what i have found between the two kits is the camera is the sam but the trajectory option has a little box. i have seen a picture of the kit but cant find part numbers.

If they have fitted this at the dealership then somthing dodgy is going on. i went to a few dealerships looking for golfs. i wanted a camera but the would not do it here in aus thay said it had to be done in the factory. which i found pretty crap. even the alarm has to be factory and all it has extra is a siren and a tilt and movment sensor.

[Bambazonke]

Gents I have posted an article on this before.

There are 2 types of VW OEM RVC's. The first one is commonly known as the dumb unit which has only the fixed yellow lines that are part of the camera component in the boot handle. When coding the RVC, Only the video link is activated in the No 56 radio module if you are using the RCD 510 or the No 37 navi module if you have the RNS 510. The head units do not control the yellow lines these are preprogrammed from within the camera itself. This basic camera can be bought for USD 280 plus postage from either an ebay seller in Taiwan who only deals in VW OEM parts (where I bought mine from) or a dealer in the Czech republic who also sells a lot of Skoda parts. The gentleman in Ireland is rather expensive and I have found sellers in Germany & Poland a lot cheaper for VW parts. The only problem is you have to search for the part in German for example VW Lichtschalter (Light switch)

The second option is the advanced one which is described in the Tiguan owners manual park assist section. It has an additional module or box of tricks (Part No 5N0907441B) between the camera and the radio/ navi display. Again the radio/navi head unit merely acts as a go between the various steering sensors and this module which is mounted just below the rear windscreen wiper as i could see a vacant mounting bracket space in my tailgate when i did my RVC installation. This module has the additional green and red guide lines lines and must be firstly activated in the No19 CAN gateway module and then calibrated to match the vehicle it is installed in. The chap in the Czech also sells these OEM kits but are around USD550 for this kit.

I suspect the dealer has fitted a non OEM kit after the car arrived in Aus as these kits are pretty common and cheap here compared to the OEM one's. There is no reason why a dealer cannot install either the dumb kit with yellow lines only or the advanced unit which is just an extra matter of recalibrating the lines by either using their VAS (VW software) or getting a private contractor to do it using the VCDS software

I took a full day to install mine as I had no manual or directions on stripping the panels to lay the wiring etc. if I had to repeat the exercise I could do it in three to four hours which I would expect the dealer to also do it in but as usual the dealer was probably trying to cut corners!


PS if anyone wants an OEM installation done, pay for my air ticket and beers and I'll be there tomorrow!!!