Rns510 Mmi

[jacob_1987]

Yeah $1500 for bluetooth does sound awefully expensive, isn't there any like $300ish options lol... the MMI sounds like a good idea to be honest and for around $400 sounds alright, but if I get the MMI can I get the Iphone to work the same as a bluetooth via the Ipod cable.

[jacob_1987]

The video in motion problem is that the only feature that it has doesn't work which is the ability to disable it by pressing a button on the steering wheel. It displays video in motion however so at least that works.

Don't get me started on the video in and the reverse camera interface, I'll post on those soon enough.

wow, to be honest that's probably the most important and beneficial feature... any idea why it won't work, that would be sooo goood... I wouldn't mind that

[Swallowtail]

Thanks Swallowtail

1. I thought you were asking me for the pricing as I posted 650 for the Fiscon Pro as well

2. I'm confused about the Pro vs Fiscon Basic Plus as Fiscon mentioned that it's exactly the same. I've posted the link below for reference.

Quoted from Fiscon's website: http://fiscon-mobile.com/products/faq.php

Q: I have read the words "Basic-Plus" and "Pro". Are there differences?

A: The words "Basic-Plus" and "Pro" are standing for exactly the same products and are used parallel. They declare FISCON products with operation from the navigation system or MMI.


Cheers

As your quote shows Fiscon officially call it the Basic-Plus now, not the Pro. I was just clarifying that what you were referring to was the Basic-Plus.

[Swallowtail]

the MMI sounds like a good idea to be honest and for around $400 sounds alright, but if I get the MMI can I get the Iphone to work the same as a bluetooth via the Ipod cable.

The MDI (not MMI) is a neat piece of kit. Not sure what you mean by "work the same as a bluetooth vis the Ipod cable" though... when you connect an iPod to the MDI you get full control of the iPod from the head unit, including selecting artists, genres, albums, etc. What else do you mean?

The cheapest Bluetooth that you will get fully integrated will set you back about 800 or 900. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, see this sticky - http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=31461

Re maverick's issues with Kufatec & / or Fiscon, so far we have:

1. Video in Motion - can't disable the ViM from steering wheel control
2. Unspecified details but "don't have a lot of faith in Kufatec"
3. Reverse camera not activating 10 - 15% of time on reverse selection (is that correct Maverick, I remember reading that somewhere in the last day or two but can't find it now).

[hannson]

As your quote shows Fiscon officially call it the Basic-Plus now, not the Pro. I was just clarifying that what you were referring to was the Basic-Plus.

er... actually, if you follow the Fiscon quotes/url I posted earlier, they call it the Pro

See these 2 links:

http://fiscon-mobile.com/products/faq.php

http://fiscon-mobile.com/products/navi.php

lol.. but no worries.. it's all good since it's all the same


I'm more concern if it works well

[hannson]

The MDI (not MMI) is a neat piece of kit. Not sure what you mean by "work the same as a bluetooth vis the Ipod cable" though... when you connect an iPod to the MDI you get full control of the iPod from the head unit, including selecting artists, genres, albums, etc.

*nod* I agree with Swallowtail!

MDI supports the ID3 tags and provides with really nice info into your HU!

BTW.. what is MMI? I thought that was an Audi thing?

[Swallowtail]

er... actually, if you follow the Fiscon quotes/url I posted earlier, they call it the Pro

See these 2 links:

http://fiscon-mobile.com/products/faq.php

http://fiscon-mobile.com/products/navi.php

lol.. but no worries.. it's all good since it's all the same


I'm more concern if it works well

This is what i was going from:

http://www.kufatec.de/infocenter/anleitungen/99.%20Firmen_Infos/5.%20Flyer/FISCON%20VW%20(englisch).pdf

As you say though, what it is called is not as much of an issue as whether it works or not! Thanks Hannson.

[hannson]

This is what i was going from:

http://www.kufatec.de/infocenter/anleitungen/99.%20Firmen_Infos/5.%20Flyer/FISCON%20VW%20(englisch).pdf

As you say though, what it is called is not as much of an issue as whether it works or not! Thanks Hannson.

keke.. you're right!!! I had a look

Kufatec is referring to it as "Basic Plus", whereas Fiscon-mobile is calling it Pro

Colour of Kettle and Pot is similar

[Swallowtail]

IMO not as good as the Skoda which can be picked up for around $650 from the UK.

Kufatec's quality control leaves a bit to be desired, I have the video in, reverse camera in and video in motion and all have problems.

I spoke to Stu, he can supply these to Aus for about AU$750 at the moment. Note also that in his install he's used a few $ worth of extra cables and connectors from VW to simplify the install, so it's about $800 worth of bits. I have updated my sticky here with this info:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?p=355602

So price-wise it's about the same as the Fiscon.

Pros - adds voice control
Cons - not plug and play install.

[Maverick]

You can buy plug and play cables for the Skoda bluetooth, also you can find both the plug and play cable and the Skoda bluetooth on ebay at times for around $400-500.

[Swallowtail]

You can buy anything on ebay can't you? LOL...

Yes in some ways the Skoda kit is better than the Fiscon (i.e. voice control). I get the message...

Is it the ONLY choice? No.


EDIT - you can get an A revision from Poland for about $600 - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

You pay your money you makes your choice. Good price, and looks like it's with a PnP cable. A revision doesn't do A2DP though... at that price may be worth getting one to try it...

[Maverick]

You can buy anything on ebay can't you? LOL...

Yes in some ways the Skoda kit is better than the Fiscon (i.e. voice control). I get the message...

Is it the ONLY choice? No.

I'm not saying it is but people should be aware that Kufatec have had problems before with firmware versions of the RNS 510 (one example) and their bluetooth. The Skoda bluetooth being a VAG product will not have these problems as VAG test all their related products to ensure they work before releasing new firmware.

One specific example was version 1.xx of the Kufatec bluetooth didn't correctly receive calls when the answer button was pressed on the touchscreen of the RNS 510 running version 800 firmware and instead answered the call and dropped it and left both parties unable to communicate. Upgrading the firmware of the RNS 510 to 900 or upgrading the firmware (this was available later) to a new version on the bluetooth fixed this problem.

It's just something to be aware of that may be an issue and upgrading the firmware on headunits shouldn't be done until others or Kufatec have tested it. Meanwhile I'll get back to Kufatec over the malfunctioning reverse camera/video into controller and the video in motion and see where I get to, the problem appears to be widespread and I'm not confident there will be a fix for either problem.

[Swallowtail]

I'm not saying it is but people should be aware that Kufatec have had problems before with firmware versions of the RNS 510 (one example) and their bluetooth. The Skoda bluetooth being a VAG product will not have these problems as VAG test all their related products to ensure they work before releasing new firmware.

One specific example was version 1.xx of the Kufatec bluetooth didn't correctly receive calls when the answer button was pressed on the touchscreen of the RNS 510 running version 800 firmware and instead answered the call and dropped it and left both parties unable to communicate. Upgrading the firmware of the RNS 510 to 900 or upgrading the firmware (this was available later) to a new version on the bluetooth fixed this problem.

It's just something to be aware of that may be an issue and upgrading the firmware on headunits shouldn't be done until others or Kufatec have tested it. Meanwhile I'll get back to Kufatec over the malfunctioning reverse camera/video into controller and the video in motion and see where I get to, the problem appears to be widespread and I'm not confident there will be a fix for either problem.

Because of course there are never any problems or issues with anything that come out of VAG as they fully and 100% test everything they release right? Maverick, no-one is that naive . Yes there have been documented issues in the past with older versions, just as there have been issues with RNS510s and every other electronic device known to man etc etc. Hence why they release newer versions of firmware and software - they aren't just to ADD functionality.

The Fiscon Bluetooth is a stable piece of equipment that is simple to install and generally cheaper than the Skoda kit when bought from mainstream online retailers. The Skoda kit is better yes - VAG kit, voice activated (although from a recent post on here doesn't use the phone button on the MFSW?) but is generally more expensive and harder to install.

Individual choice...

I absolutely agree with you though about not upgrading the firmware unless tested by others - it's an expensive unit to turn into a brick LOL...

Re the issue you have with the reverse camera - would love to hear any outcomes positive or otherwise.

[triode12]

You can buy plug and play cables for the Skoda bluetooth, also you can find both the plug and play cable and the Skoda bluetooth on ebay at times for around $400-500.

Is the one off Ebay the same as the one from Stu? i.e. Ver B?

Does it come with all the necessary brackets and stuff?

[G-rig]

I've got issues with the kufatek reverse camera not activating at times ad well, 15% is a fair assessment. The kufatec rep will be visiting Northfield today and keen to show him what it's doing wrong. I know there is a startup time in the 510, but it should work straight away after that, and get black screens as well as a dirty line on one side of the picture.

I've got the Skoda kit as well and no complaints at all. Each to their own though and fiscon is plug and play.

You don't need to spend $100 on the connectors for the skoda if your handy with soldering.

After mucking around with other car kits I knew having the OEM microphone in the OEM location would work properly.

I don't think the fiscon shows multiple numbers per contact either.