Need advice/help on bora sound

[TopBloke]

Hi all, i just got a 01 bora and i am looking to put my old 6.5" rockford splits in the car. what i would like to know/advice on the differcultly and a position to put the crossover. Also would like put my DB 12's in the back. I nwas thinking of doing it my self or should i go to someone that know what they are doing more then me, if i should get someone to do it can you recommend someone in adelaide or just go down to autobahn?
TopBloke

[Mr ©harisma]

My xovers are pretty big and they had no problem fitting behind the climate control in the centre bit. Just make sure you secure them down.

If your not confortable in doing the install yourself, try and get a professional to do it.

[glidn]

to be honest i would not bother upgrading the front speakers. Put a good head unit in and amp the front speakers they will sound as good most likely sound better than the rockford fostgate stuff.


Hope this helps. But otherwise easy enough to moun cross-over in the door more than enough room.

[qsilverza]

Hehe, I doubt it. Often the older stuff especially from the American companies when it was actually made in America was very good.

I do agree an Amplifier and proper head-unit will do a treat and that the stock system in these cars is not bad at all.

Centre console is a good place, door's are not a good idea, water gets in and isn't healthy for x-overs. Though with my rear's I mounted the x-overs on the door skin as there was enough space but the x-overs were a lot smaller than my front's.

I actually made an mdf mount for the boot and put my front x-overs/distribuition block/front amplifier and sub onto the board. I have left the rear's running off of the head-unit.

to be honest i would not bother upgrading the front speakers. Put a good head unit in and amp the front speakers they will sound as good most likely sound better than the rockford fostgate stuff.


Hope this helps. But otherwise easy enough to moun cross-over in the door more than enough room.

[glidn]

i'm rather serious. The factory gear is very good. Amp it and if you are not happy wit the sound then upgrade the speakers.

As for cross-overs you can stick it in between the door skin and door panel. there is no moisture in there moisture is on the other side of the door.

[Dub_Star_V6]

i'm rather serious. The factory gear is very good. Amp it and if you are not happy wit the sound then upgrade the speakers.

I'm in the same boat TB with my Bora, so if that's the case glidn, I have a FUSION Audio 'Encounter Series' FE-402 2ch amp (140W RMS) I'm ready to fit to help improve the clarity and response of the OEM speakers a bit. Almost a pity to have it stuck under the front passenger seat. Sooo pur-itty



You think this will be enough to make an improvement to the factory stuff? If not I also have a set of JVC CS-FS6 splits for the front (300w RMS).

I ran a JVC KW-XC777 double-DIN MP3 headunit in the Subaru, but also thinking about fitting another JVC unit in the Bora(t) for MP3 convenience (JVC KW-XG701)



Any feedback/thoughts/advice on this set-up boys?

[glidn]

anyone with a mk4 wanting to upgrading your stereo gear. upgrading your head unit to the likes of a Alpine 9887 will make a world of difference.

If you do sound deaden the car too you really will have no need to upgrade speakers.

but amping your standard speakers will already be a good improvement.

[Silver dub]

Crossover positions

hi guys i have just about finished my install in my Bora. It is all working except for one little hickup with one crossover were the brass coil sprung so i'm waiting to pick up the replacment one this weekend.

Anyway I have installed new MB quart splits in the front, MB Quart 2 way Coaxials in the rear, 2 alpine amps ( one for the splits and coaxial's) and one for the two 10" alpine subs.

I blew all my standard splits when i was running them with just a 12" sub, so i had to update.

My managed to fit my crossovers just behind the door handles and they fitted perfectly and i also didn't have to worry about running heaps of wires back through the door etc.

I will be posting up a forum with all the step by step photos soon.

But i'll post up some pics of where i put my crossovers for you now so you can get an idea.

[Silver dub]

pic

Here is a picture of my crossover,

[HOLEIN1]

I nwas thinking of doing it my self or should i go to someone that know what they are doing more then me, if i should get someone to do it can you recommend someone in adelaide or just go down to autobahn?
TopBloke

i dont want to generalise but, i have found that most autobarn stores in adelaide are pretty poor installers, and have limited knowledge of anything other than the entry level equipment that they stock

yes they get the gear in ok, but quality and attention to detail isnt the best. would also stay away from sthrathfield and JB Hi Fi...

the golf/boras are relitivley easy to do a HU swap in, so i would suggest that you give it a crack yourself. if you have any questions post up here and theres plenty of people who can help out

in terms of speaker replacement i would upgrade your HU first like some others have suggested, you will be suprised how much of a difference it makes.

if youre dead set on replacing the speakers you will have to remove the door trims, drill out 4 rivets per speaker, make up some MDF spacers and then paint them, then put everything back together. you would obviously be running an amp, so would also recommend upgrading the speaker wire to a thicker gauge

theres also a few tutes on vw vortex which may help out

cheers, dan

[Fury]

You don't have to drill out the rivets unless ur taking the inner door skin off... which I highly doubt you are.
Heck i sound deadened the outer door without drilling out the rivets (helps i got a mate with skinny arms).

[qsilverza]

Hey Fury,

You have to drill out the speaker rivets, are you referring to the Lock rivets up near the top ?

[Fury]

Oh... I don't remember that... my Bora came with only one speaker, and it was so long ago... I think it may have even just pulled off, it was only plastic.

[HOLEIN1]

You don't have to drill out the rivets unless ur taking the inner door skin off... which I highly doubt you are.
Heck i sound deadened the outer door without drilling out the rivets (helps i got a mate with skinny arms).

looks like there may have been a difference between the models than as the two golfs that i have worked on had rivets holding the standard spacer to the inner door skin

i only took the door apart as i deadened the entire outer skin... if you dont do this theres obviously no need to go to this extent...

my memory is failing me at the moment so cant remmeber how the speaker is attached to the standard spacer, so you may be able to resuse it... MDF would theoretically give a better sound as its a more solid mounting point than the thin plasic... although this would probably be negligable...

i still say replace the crapola standard HU first and take it from there...

cheers, dan

[Silver dub]

yeah my genuine speakers and spacers in my bora were all molded into one piece. So to replace the speakers i had to make new spacers for the new speakers to fit