RNS510 + DSP or Aftermarket Android with DSP?

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Who ever did your 3D print can do it in ABS filament and ask them to do atleast 80% fill, will may be cost double and will take a bit longer but it will have a Lot more heat resistant and stronger. It will help prevent vibrations as well.

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This is interesting... 11 inch Alpine unit, due out this month.



Has 4V preouts with 6-channel time correction: Alpine

I wonder if it'd be possible to flush mount it with a custom adapter..

CES 2020: Alpine and Pioneer Debut Largest-Ever CarPlay Receivers With Up to 11-Inch Hovering Displays - MacRumors

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That looks a bit like an easily removable tablet to me, even if it isn't. Would be a shame for somebody to have a crack! I suppose lots of cars have what looks like a tablet sitting on the dash without too much unwanted attention.

Any idea what the damage would be on it? I see Alpine have a reasonable looking 8" unit that looks like it integrates perfectly, for a rather unreasonable price of $2800 😳

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Who ever did your 3D print can do it in ABS filament and ask them to do atleast 80% fill, will may be cost double and will take a bit longer but it will have a Lot more heat resistant and stronger. It will help prevent vibrations as well.

I printed it myself. Pretty sure I did it at 100% infill, each side used about 3/4 of a roll each, so about $15 a side using factory seconds filament from a local manufacturer. Lower infill doesn't really save any time, and it was gonna use a lot of filament either way.

I'm going to have to politely disagree about abs being superior, temperature resistance is about the only advantage it has over PETG, and not by a whole lot... And like I said, mine are holding up fine parked in the sun with a couple of 44-45 degree days the past few summers. If I had to make a new set I would probably use PLA/PLA+ which when heat treated ("annealing") becomes much tougher than freshly printed PLA, and can withstand far higher temperatures than ABS. But only if the part survives the heat treatment, shouldn't be an issue with big simple speaker adaptors, not so good for small complicated parts. PLA is so easy to work with, PETG is a little trickier but not too tricky, ABS is just a dog to work with, doesn't like to stick to the build surface, needs a heated enclosure for good results and it smells awful + the fumes are fatal for birds, and I got a few in the next room.

There's some fairly scientific testing of the more popular filament types here: How to improve your 3D prints with annealing - Prusa Printers

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BTW - I was lucky that although my R36 only had the standard Blaupunkt system, it had the Dynaudio wiring - got the amp + speakers for only $1500 from the wreckers. Here's the retrofit I did when I first bought he car in 2014: R36 Dynaudio Retrofit Guide . I used some DynaXorb pads behind the main drivers, not 100% convinced on the science they claim around geometry etc, but I think the soft rubber material provides good dampening.

Here are some photos of the enclosure construction (original post: B6 R36 Passat - Dynaudio Retrofit)

Internal volume/structure - before the raised lid went on:

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Construction of the raised lid:

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First layer of contoured lid - using core-mat (great rigid bulking layer with good acoustic properties):

[ATTACH=CONFIG]48469[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48470[/ATTACH]Original carbon fiber (before glossing up):

I've just got back into it (been distracted with a couple of renovation projects over the years...) - sanded back the carbon fiber lid over the weekend and about to do a fresh micro-balloon (Q-Cel) fill to smooth out all the waviness.

that's really top notch work there, and I remember reading that retrofit thread before I bought my Passat early 2018, i was shopping for something with AWD, reasonable performance and room for/factory option available of 3 way front speakers with the midrange close to the woofers, not up on the dash or requiring custom pillar pods. That thread basically sealed the deal for me 😎

Hadn't realised you were still running a spare tyre under the box, makes the enclosure volume even more impressive!

Correct me if I'm wrong but have you had that box in the boot for 5 years or so but not yet actually had it powered up and bumping away that whole time??? Dude! Even if you have to tap into the line out, or even into a speaker high level, or even (!) use a dodgy high-low converter to get it functional, it's almost certainly going to be an improvement. Use the amps crossover, fiddle with the phase switch if it helps, or even reverse the wiring polarity to the sub, you won't damage anything and at least you'll have the sub "run in" and loosened up by the time you look at whatever the next step might be.

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That looks a bit like an easily removable tablet to me, even if it isn't. Would be a shame for somebody to have a crack! I suppose lots of cars have what looks like a tablet sitting on the dash without too much unwanted attention.

Any idea what the damage would be on it? I see Alpine have a reasonable looking 8" unit that looks like it integrates perfectly, for a rather unreasonable price of $2800 

Yeah, that's why I'm wondering about a custom flush mount job..


It says US$1,200 so AU$1,800 with exchange rates. Australian retailers will probably charge around the $2,800 mark. I go to the US frequent enough, so would probably buy it there if that's the case.

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that's really top notch work there, and I remember reading that retrofit thread before I bought my Passat early 2018, i was shopping for something with AWD, reasonable performance and room for/factory option available of 3 way front speakers with the midrange close to the woofers, not up on the dash or requiring custom pillar pods. That thread basically sealed the deal for me 

Hadn't realised you were still running a spare tyre under the box, makes the enclosure volume even more impressive!

Correct me if I'm wrong but have you had that box in the boot for 5 years or so but not yet actually had it powered up and bumping away that whole time??? Dude! Even if you have to tap into the line out, or even into a speaker high level, or even (!) use a dodgy high-low converter to get it functional, it's almost certainly going to be an improvement. Use the amps crossover, fiddle with the phase switch if it helps, or even reverse the wiring polarity to the sub, you won't damage anything and at least you'll have the sub "run in" and loosened up by the time you look at whatever the next step might be.

Thanks, I'm glad you found the guide useful

Yeah it has been sitting under my house collecting dust for the past few years... the premium sub has also been just sitting in the box for years. It's quite embarrassing - I just haven't had the time for it.

I still need to pick up an amp and dsp/head unit or line converter and then do the install - or probably just get it done by a professional.

TBH - the standard Dynaudio system (plus extra sound deadening) sounds awesome. Very punchy, just missing the big low end - been looking forward to rounding it out for a long time.

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Any idea what the damage would be on it? I see Alpine have a reasonable looking 8" unit that looks like it integrates perfectly, for a rather unreasonable price of $2800 

The Alpine iLX-F411 is available online from this site for US$999 (back order) and they ship internationally: Alpine ILX-F411 Halo | 11" Floating Touchscreen Receiver

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So, another year has gone by... but I now have the DSP and AMP (Helix DSP MINI + Helix P One) and have redone the carbon fiber finish.

Time to let the professionals take over =)

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So, another year has gone by... but I now have the DSP and AMP (Helix DSP MINI + Helix P One) and have redone the carbon fiber finish.

Time to let the professionals take over =)




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I'm planning to transplant this sub into my Arteon, does anyone want this spare wheel enclosure? (minus sub, amp etc).

It was designed for an R36, but should fit a B6 Passat with 18" wheels (possibly the B7 facelift).

Located in Brisbane.