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    hey guys anybody running a cage in their road car ? i have to get my mk2vr6 engineered anyway i was wondering if i can get a cage thru aswell ?
    prob half cage for the street maybe i can get the rear seats taken out and rego as a 2 seater. any body have any experience doing it above board ?
    cheers brenton
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  • #2
    make sure its a bolt in

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    • #3
      As forementioned, it has to be bolt in (thus completely removable).

      Another important thing to consider is the it cannot exceed 5 points for street legal use. Finally, it requires an engineers certificate and a mod plate as well for it to be legal to use. With all that say and done, insurace wont touch you with a 20foot pole unless it's someone like Just Car...
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      • #4
        If you plan on racing the car you need to make sure it's CAMS legal too.

        Here's the CAMS regs http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/gen...ule_J_Q208.pdf

        I'm told it can be tricky to build a cage which is both CAMS and street legal.

        I'd suggest you get an engineering firm to manage the whole project from start to finish so you can be sure it's safe and compliant.

        Pete
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Peter Jones View Post
          If you plan on racing the car you need to make sure it's CAMS legal too.

          Here's the CAMS regs http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/gen...ule_J_Q208.pdf

          I'm told it can be tricky to build a cage which is both CAMS and street legal.

          I'd suggest you get an engineering firm to manage the whole project from start to finish so you can be sure it's safe and compliant.

          Pete
          Thanks for the link Pete. Downloaded and saved.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
            Thanks for the link Pete. Downloaded and saved.
            If you liked that, the rest of the CAMS manual has it's own website here http://www.camsmanual.com.au/general.asp

            I'm told there's a program to make the thing simpler but fir the moment it's a confusing document to figure out.


            Pete
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            • #7
              I am also doing a half cage in my car. I understand QLD requires mod plates and so forth, but we don't have that kind of thing in vic. Will i still neeed an engineers cert for a bolt in half cage in vic? by 5 point, are you refering to having 5 points where the cage is mounted to the floor?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ScienceVR6 View Post
                I am also doing a half cage in my car. I understand QLD requires mod plates and so forth, but we don't have that kind of thing in vic. Will i still neeed an engineers cert for a bolt in half cage in vic? by 5 point, are you refering to having 5 points where the cage is mounted to the floor?
                Vicroads info here http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...65/0/VSI28.pdf

                Other useful Vicroads info here http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/...dsInformation/

                Pete
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                • #9
                  Its BS a proper CAMS log booked cage does not pass a RWC in Vic due to the side intrusion bars and the a pillar bar...

                  Its a load of crap a side intrusion bar will save your life but wont pass a RWC

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Water Boy View Post
                    Its BS a proper CAMS log booked cage does not pass a RWC in Vic due to the side intrusion bars and the a pillar bar...

                    Its a load of crap a side intrusion bar will save your life but wont pass a RWC
                    You won't find any arguments here.

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                    • #11
                      how does it in any way affect the safety of a car (the side intursion bar)

                      It won't affect handling, braking, lighting structural rigity/strength in a negative way... lik wah... damn vicroads.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jarred View Post
                        how does it in any way affect the safety of a car (the side intursion bar)

                        It won't affect handling, braking, lighting structural rigity/strength in a negative way... lik wah... damn vicroads.

                        Probably because it makes it harder to get out of the car.

                        They do seem to be allowed but they can't be higher up than the seat cushion.

                        Pete
                        79 MK1 Golf Wreck to Race / 79 MK1 Golf The Red Thread / 76 MK1 Golf Kamei Race Car
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Peter Jones View Post
                          Probably because it makes it harder to get out of the car.

                          They do seem to be allowed but they can't be higher up than the seat cushion.

                          Pete
                          Yeah that was my guess.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Water Boy View Post
                            Its BS a proper CAMS log booked cage does not pass a RWC in Vic due to the side intrusion bars and the a pillar bar...

                            Its a load of crap a side intrusion bar will save your life but wont pass a RWC
                            A cage makes getting you out of a wreck a damned sight harder. That's the primary reason for the restrictions.
                            Nothing to see here...

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                            • #15
                              But it will save ya life... Hmmmm do the math

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