What cam is this? Suggestions for replacement?

[Peter Jones]

Didn't know there was a 8v crossflow head. I'm beginning to plan a trip to the US early next year, I might have to pack light.

Keep the ideas coming, It's been a long while since I last built any motors and this is a great refresher. My motor experience is with aircooled stuff to so the watercooled specs are great knowledge to gain.

I've never really played with turbos, and I'm comfortable programming and setting up EFI or any other electronic system. (Designed and built my own efi computer at tafe). but somehow the idea of big sidedrafts and a silly cam is what appeals at the moment. I deal with complex electronic systems all day long, there's a lot to be said for the sheer simplicity of a big carby.An 8v would be a lot simpler to fit in the engine bay too.

Plenty of time for research and chin wagging.

Pete

[Jarred]

F1 engine's are a whole nother topic! they are just insane, simply put.

Mind you, I've never like F1. Too much technology, and not enough actual talent.

I much prefer super saloons or pro street stuff. Mind you. I barely watch motorsport anymore. But I'll shut up now, because this is way off topic!

[Preen59]

You think about it though, it's achievable.

BMW did it in F1 back in the 80s using standard off the production line cast iron 318i blocks.

1500 horsepower in qualifying trim pumping around 8 atmospheres.

They used to early entry the corners to make the straights longer because they got more benefit from the extra straight line speed than carrying corner speed! Black smoke plooming out the back of them.

Oh, and get this... 1.5 litre, 30mm stroke!

[Preen59]

Oh yeah turbo, some weird small to big setup. He was talking something like 7 or 8 atmospheres (100/120 PSI) boost wise. Crazy.

[Preen59]

now thats a break up that cost more than a divorce

HAHAHA, solid.

That's not it. CHECK OUT THE ROD LENGTH!!

I'll post a link to the forum when i find it.

[Jarred]

and you thought divorce was nasty and expensive! hhahaha

as for big cams with phat idles, I'm in love!

[GoLfMan]

now thats a break up that cost more than a divorce

[Oneofthegreats]

Golfworx, stop stealing my cams ideas!

Jarred, stop stealing everything else!!

Really its 8v for street, but if you want something with serious poke for competition, 16vs are the deal.

The 16v head is actually quite a good head. According to a guy from Greece named Spyros (oh its getting worse and worse here isn't it? haha) who is building a 1000hp (yeah thats three zeros) 2.1L 16v, he chose the VW 16v over a cosworth BDA or BDG because they have a better head and flow better.

DOH!!!

Sorry Preen. I totally forgot about that .
If I was going 11.0:1 CR on a semi race engine, I'd go bigger cams, but for most people if it's a purely street engine on PULP & maybe ULP, 276's would be very nice.

Although saying that, the people that know me from my past I would go bigger cause I love the rough idle & run a bigger stall.
My old every day'r ute had a 3000rpm stall.

I've read of a 1000+hp 16VT that split in half

[GoLfMan]

GROUP BUY
if we shipped bulk itd be sweet...
im just keen on the idea of not having the inlet over the exhaust so i dont get heat soak in my DCOE

[Jarred]

links to these threads mate? and whats the availabilities of these heads?

just look on vortex, I've see a fair few threads with guys with ABAs on megasquirt and etc, but due to the quantity of threads on vortex, you might have to do a bit of searching.

From what I gather, ABA's are reasonably common in the US, but just shipping, and finding *just* a head that someone would be willing to send out, wouldn't make it worth while IMO.

For the money spent buying it, and getting it shipped over (due to it's weight) I think i'd be more economical monetarily, to spend the money on a head available here, and get more work done to it. If that makes sense at all.

Then again, I'm just spit balling here

[GoLfMan]

This is very true.

I've seen build up thread's on Vortex about ABA 8V's making some very nice hp & torque numbers both NA & turbo'd.

This is turning out to be one of the best thread's in a while.

links to these threads mate? and whats the availabilities of these heads?

[Jarred]

.... who is building a 1000hp (yeah thats three zeros) 2.1L 16v, ....

firstly.Spyros. hahaha

secondly !!!

I'm geussing this is turbo'd and must have some serious work done to it!

Got a link by anychance?

[Oneofthegreats]

Beau and I were talking about this last weekend. A crazy 8v is quicker and more reliable than all but the most extreme 16v.

Also consider the american aba crossflow heads they can make stupid power from an 8v and can run kjet

This is very true.

I've seen build up thread's on Vortex about ABA 8V's making some very nice hp & torque numbers both NA & turbo'd.

This is turning out to be one of the best thread's in a while.

[Preen59]

Golfworx, stop stealing my cams ideas!

Jarred, stop stealing everything else!!

Really its 8v for street, but if you want something with serious poke for competition, 16vs are the deal.

The 16v head is actually quite a good head. According to a guy from Greece named Spyros (oh its getting worse and worse here isn't it? haha) who is building a 1000hp (yeah thats three zeros) 2.1L 16v, he chose the VW 16v over a cosworth BDA or BDG because they have a better head and flow better.

[Jarred]

Also consider the american aba crossflow heads they can make stupid power from an 8v and can run kjet

I've thought about getting one from the US, already worked, and putting it on twins probably. But then again, I don't really have money for it, so I'll have to stick to GX's and so on an so forth... Oh well.I'll live.