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  • #16
    I've been through this with my Skoda Octavia VRS 2.0 TSI Turbo DSG (Like GTI)
    (Check my post in the Skoda Octavia section)

    Stage1 is fun/cool but when you get used it you realise that it's pretty weak at the top end
    I was short changing to get around this and driving on torque

    The downpipe and StageII tune cleaned it up nicely
    Wider powerband, 1500rpm to 7000rpm (very strong from 2800rpm)
    (I did also install the Carbino CAI but I think it's effect is small - very noisy also - very $)
    I do agree it's hard to use this power level from stationary and in the wet
    But it's still fast and fun - no question about that

    My advice would be to go straight to StageII with the downpipe
    it will put a smile on your face and surprise others around you

    On factory ECU I get ~560km out of a tank (driving to work)
    On Stage1 tune I was getting ~520km out of a tank
    On Stage2 I am getting ~490km out of a tank (I'm using the power more often)
    Last edited by Martin; 12-02-2013, 05:17 AM.
    2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
    APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
    APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
    Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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    • #17
      Agree with what some have already said - best bang for buck mod is tyres.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by remy View Post
        Agree with what some have already said - best bang for buck mod is tyres.
        Don't agree - especially the suggestion of semi slicks tyres. Plain silly to suggest for street use.
        The best bang for buck ( noticeable ) mod is a larger rear swaybar. $200-300 or so installed. Nothing else gives the same change for the money spent !

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        • #19
          my list in order of preference:
          1) ECU tune - name your brand
          2) Stickier tyres. Maybe not semi-slicks but something stickier than stock
          3) Experiment with tyre pressures
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          • #20
            If you have 3k to spare stage 2 is what you want.
            $1095 for a GIAC tune from Exoticars
            $699 for an SPM 3" DP
            Intake of whatever brand you prefer
            Add some installation costs and you are still well under $3000 and will have more power than you can put to the ground.

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            • #21
              As Tim said go straight to stage 2 as I promise you will end up there eventually if you start at phase 1. So save yourself the money and as he also said there are lots of more powerful tunes available out there than the mainstream will suggest to you. Do your homework and don't be afraid to mix and match products brands to get maximum results ie. FMIC, CAI, DP, DV which can all be tuned by the "right" tuner.

              Good luck

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tim View Post
                Add some installation costs and you are still well under $3000 and will have more power than you can put to the ground.
                I like I like

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by bennjamin View Post
                  Don't agree - especially the suggestion of semi slicks tyres. Plain silly to suggest for street use.
                  The best bang for buck ( noticeable ) mod is a larger rear swaybar. $200-300 or so installed. Nothing else gives the same change for the money spent !
                  tell me why?

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                  • #24
                    You can go straight to stage 2 very cheaply.

                    Viezu are doing a package at the moment for forum members: $1799 for Viezu Tune, VARdeisgn DP and Carbon CAI.

                    This will leave you with change for such things as a rear Swaybar and some Lowered Springs. Job done go have a Beer
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                    • #25
                      Street slicks are only useful for driving to the track and back without changing wheels/tires at the track
                      They wear out at an astonishing rate, you would need a fat wallet to use them all the time

                      Using them in the wet could bring you unstuck
                      2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                      APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                      APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                      Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sardaukar View Post
                        tell me why?
                        You refer to my comment on semis? Martin suggests it above. Street legal semi slicks ( or high performance street tyres with large chunks of tread pattern with racing in mind) shouldn't be on any road based car IMO. It's a waste of money , they need more heat in them to work and do not work well on any surface except perfectly smooth flat road. Having them makes you look like a racer but they can also give the false sense of performance , safety and grip . Throw your car at any type of wet / loose gravel / dirt / oil / grease / leaves etc mid corner with semis on and I'd bet you will be wishing you had decent normal road tyres as you under steer into a cliff side.

                        All IMO lol

                        But this is about the "best bang for buck". Rear swaybar upgrade (on a fwd) is still easily the best bang for buck mod you can do

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                        • #27
                          I was more referring to the sway bar to be honest, I know all there is about tyres and how they work. (trust me a learnt the hard way)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sardaukar View Post
                            I was more referring to the sway bar to be honest, I know all there is about tyres and how they work. (trust me a learnt the hard way)
                            Ahh k - here is a couple of links to inform you

                            AutoSpeed - Rear Sway Bars: Improving FWD Handling

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bennjamin View Post
                              You refer to my comment on semis? Martin suggests it above. Street legal semi slicks ( or high performance street tyres with large chunks of tread pattern with racing in mind) shouldn't be on any road based car IMO. It's a waste of money , they need more heat in them to work and do not work well on any surface except perfectly smooth flat road. Having them makes you look like a racer but they can also give the false sense of performance , safety and grip . Throw your car at any type of wet / loose gravel / dirt / oil / grease / leaves etc mid corner with semis on and I'd bet you will be wishing you had decent normal road tyres as you under steer into a cliff side.

                              All IMO lol

                              But this is about the "best bang for buck". Rear swaybar upgrade (on a fwd) is still easily the best bang for buck mod you can do
                              That's not true of Semi Slicks at all. You're entitled to your opinion but that doesn't correspond with my experience.
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                              • #30
                                Go the tune first then add a dump-pipe to that, the intake if a decent one will only benefit you as much as keeping the intake temps down which helps to keep power at a maximum. There is not much difference between the peak power figures tunes on the cars with a K03 but you may find some have much broader delivery than others
                                Add the rest of the exhaust if you are unhappy with the sound or spend the balance on suspension or just give it too me

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