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1. Only you can judge that. Generally a stage 1 tune is good value but APR is at the high end in terms of cost for return
2. Push it hard, worse, drive it sensibly, same or better
3. Something goes wrong that VW can relate to the tune, possibly an issue but unlikely on a stage 1 and VW have to prove it.
1) Yes, yes yes and yes. (and yes). One of the 2 essential mods you can make. Awesome value for money, even though others may say it's expensive - APR support is really good. Remember all this does is unlock the true potential of what your car can do, it's no magic bullet. They detune these suckers for marketing and environmental reasons - all the tune does is return the volume knob's peak to 10 instead of an imposed 6.
2) Well, worse if you drive 'on it'.. It's producing more boost, so more power, so more fuel required. Just normal driving though, I've noticed no difference. It doesn't really draw the fuel until you start to spool up the turbo. The differences, if any, are negligible.
3) Who cares? Seriously though, I wouldn't worry. You can always flash it back to stock and then return the tune back in again if you're really worried. You can even switch tunes using your cruise control switches, and they can't supposedly tell unless they do in-depth analysis or logging of the engine.
1) Yes, yes yes and yes. (and yes). One of the 2 essential mods you can make. Awesome value for money, even though others may say it's expensive - APR support is really good. Remember all this does is unlock the true potential of what your car can do, it's no magic bullet. They detune these suckers for marketing and environmental reasons - all the tune does is return the volume knob's peak to 10 instead of an imposed 6.
2) Well, worse if you drive 'on it'.. It's producing more boost, so more power, so more fuel required. Just normal driving though, I've noticed no difference. It doesn't really draw the fuel until you start to spool up the turbo. The differences, if any, are negligible.
3) Who cares? Seriously though, I wouldn't worry. You can always flash it back to stock and then return the tune back in again if you're really worried. You can even switch tunes using your cruise control switches, and they can't supposedly tell unless they do in-depth analysis or logging of the engine.
Do it... No question.
I like your enthusiasm, but let's be honest about it, not misleading, so people can make the informed decision.
It's very easy for dealer to tell that the ecu was reprogrammed. On the MK6 where the ecu has to come out, it's even easier to tell, and the warranty related to the engine damage or excessive wear, failed turbocharger and on other parts could be voided.
However the reality is that I didn't see one post in the forum that it had happened. But, it doesn't guarantee that it will never happen.
It is a small risk for the added joy from driving the car that many (incl.me) are willing to take.
My MKV Golf GTI had APR tune and I was very happy with it. Now my Golf R has APR tune, VWR CAI and APR TBE and it has surpassed my expectations. Big thankyou to Mike from Prestige and Performance. He managed to tune without removing the ECU.
Guys Comment- GOLD! Go APR mate! the only problem with Stage 1 is the desire for more power but hey add a few more supporting APR mods and its an amazing car!
I like your enthusiasm, but let's be honest about it, not misleading, so people can make the informed decision.
It's very easy for dealer to tell that the ecu was reprogrammed..
the op was asking about apr... My ecu has never been out and can be reflashed to factory if I ever needed it to be... How is that misleading?
Talk over warranty risk and theoretical scenarios is lame. As soon as you do your first oil change yourself your technically in breach of warranty anyway.
Has anybody ever heard of a dealer in Aus voiding warranty over a tune anyway?
Yep
There have been plenty of warranties voided. The most recent I heard of was an unfortunate chap who had his gearbox synchro warranty claim denied.
VW can and will void your warranty if they feel like it. Its all part of the risk you take. Either go into it with your eyes open or dont go into it at all.
Why was it voided, due to a tune, or
Some other mod? I have no illusion that due to my mods the only thing left in warranty is my carpet, but are people being denied because of a tune?
Perhaps he was talking about custom built tunes, not Internet tunes ?
He's quite right though I don't know where the guys keep getting these weird ideas about GTI ECU's having to be removed and that includes the edition35 . I saw this mentioned on the other forum last week too and even the cheap tools will do it, I'm pretty sure. They aint locked or anti-tuning whatever you would like to call it but then again the same was being said about the Golf R's when they first came out and maybe some places just enjoy the pain.
Many of the other models are 'locked' however but strangely not the GTI even though it quite easily could be
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