Tdi power!!!!

[smashley]

Hey guys,

Just my new VW Tiguan 103tdi and was wondering if anyone could tell me of any experiences they have had with tdi chip upgrades.

I have seen a few places offer a 103 to 125 kw chip and a 125 to 149 kw chip
Are these for the same motor?
What other mods do i need to enhance the upgraded chip? ie exhaust, air filter.....etc

Thanks Ash

[Lorenz]

Have a search around and I am sure you will find what you are after.
Search button is your friend

[Arctra]

I'm only aware of the Oettinger 103 -> 125 remap. Check this thread out on Tig chipping for details. It covers both TSI's and the TDI:
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=30212

[team_v]

I'm only aware of the Oettinger 103 -> 125 remap. Check this thread out on Tig chipping for details. It covers both TSI's and the TDI:
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=30212

Oettinger is the only reliable company that do the 103 - 125 chip.

The 125 - 147 is a diesel variant available in europe only from memory and cannot work on Aus delivered tiguans.

[Jmac]

Just tried to flash one with Superchips tonight on a 2010 model 103 Tiggy. Control units from Aug 09 depending on your luck has an anti program firewall, bit similar to the original watchdog but only different. Hate to say most Ecus are going to be heading this way which reqs more modules and hardware to do the trick, can be done though. Superchips are releasing the new hardware in the next 10 days, reqs to be flashed via the circuit board as opposed to the obd serial flash, serial will be coming in around 12mnths. So yes Tiggys with software up to Aug 09 you are good and are still flash cable, but as ive experienced tonight not the 2010 ecus, Superchips confirmed lots of ECUS are going to be the same BMW, Merc and the likes, even Hyundai now run Bosch and will be the same, so they have to a degree went backwards, not wanting us to enhance, but its software folks,, so it can be done and soon!!! Makes the chip tuning kit that much dearer
Any updates ill be sure to post
Jmac

[yowie]

With all these V and VI models being chipped, the question is what if any effect is there on the 3-year mfr warranty. I would have thought you choose one or the other? In which case I am gonna wait

[Greg Roles]

You can't push the 103kw much past 125, as the turbo can't handle the thermal load. The 125kw engine has better heat handling, bigger turbo etc built in. You chip the ECU, you generally kiss your engine warranty goodbye, but Ottinger offer their own warranty you can purchase.

[Jmac]

Superchips and Bluefin have lifetime warranty too for the record, check out www.superchips.co.nz, aus site will be up and running very soon
Cheers
Jmac

[yowie]

Thanks both. Useful information. I guess I am at the other end of the spectrum. I like a bit of extra poke around town, but also really like being able to drive 1,000 ks on a single tank, but with quality handling Mr Kia, and would be interested to see how far that could be pushed. The Bluemotion thing looked interesting, but we didnt get that here AFAIK.

[smashley]

You can't push the 103kw much past 125, as the turbo can't handle the thermal load. The 125kw engine has better heat handling, bigger turbo etc built in. You chip the ECU, you generally kiss your engine warranty goodbye, but Ottinger offer their own warranty you can purchase.

The turbo is different????

What else is different between the two engines?

When you say heat handling are you talking about intercoolers and oil coolers?

Ash

[Jmac]

Thanks both. Useful information. I guess I am at the other end of the spectrum. I like a bit of extra poke around town, but also really like being able to drive 1,000 ks on a single tank, but with quality handling Mr Kia, and would be interested to see how far that could be pushed. The Bluemotion thing looked interesting, but we didnt get that here AFAIK.

Pre 2010 are available Bluefin, that way you can have the fun of doing the tune yourself And you can flash to standard if and when you need to
cheers
Jmac

[Buller_Scott]

hey yowie regarding the fuel economy- yes, chipping a tdi = goes faster = more fuel consumption, but when i drive the same speeds on my fast road map as on my stock map, the fuel consumption on the stock map actually appears to be greater.

which is why i run my car on fast road map all the time, even when im looking at a week of tedious commuting/ errand running.

[Greg Roles]

Sorry for the slow reply Ash,

There's a list of the exact differences 103 to 125kw somewhere in the diesel section, I couldn't find it just now, but from memory:

Extra water cooling channels around the injectors - different head
Forged and lightened crank
VNT 17 turbo with a higher accuracy VNT controller
different head gasket
Much larger EGR system / cooler
Different swirl flap inlet design, extra breathing ability
Different valves, pistons
Extra oil vapour seperation systems

a few other things, but in all VW have upgraded everything to handle the extra load, heat, and power delivery of the motor.

[Sammy125TDi]

i've just ordered a chip express module for my TDI... stay tuned for results.

[Arctra]

Any updates Sammy125TDi? You taken the big step yet smashley?