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    Did VW ever make a six speed box??? And this is probably going to sound ridiculous to eveyone here...but...has anyone ever put one in a mk1? or is is possible??
    Any input would be greatly appreciated.

  • #2
    Im not certain about this but dont the r32 an the new polo gti, and probably mk5 golf gti come with 6spd?
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    • #3
      Yeah the new VWs have 6 speeds and one could be made to fit into a Mk1 with use of a gas axe and some custom mounts. The price would be astronomical and it would be a bit pointless. Put a 5 speed in and hold on.
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      • #4
        Quaife also make a 6 speeder, but won't fit a MkI - too long

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        • #5
          trust me 5 speed is fine, you dont go searching for that extra gear liek in a 4speeder.
          76 MkI 3 door - daily drive/project - 1.8 5speed
          76 MkI 3 door swallowtail - 16v track car
          76 MkI 3 door "long term" project

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          • #6
            Use the O2M six speed if ya can find one...



            big heavy lump, and you will have to fab the mounts for a Mk1, change to cable shift,hydraulic clutch + flywheel assy, sort the electronic speedo out...

            As said earlier, just use an O2O 5 speed... ( loon should have a few of these still ??)
            Lots of MK 1 Scirocco's...

            If it aint a MK 1 then it must be a donor car ??

            Cheers,
            Grant...

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            • #7
              There's info on how to make Mk1 02M mounts hovering around on VWVortex. The 'box fits ok, but it's apparently very heavy and not worth the effort.

              1976 Project Carbon Mk1 - Sold! | 2015 Lotus Exige Cup | F80 M3 Family Wheels

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Valver.
                There's info on how to make Mk1 02M mounts hovering around on VWVortex. The 'box fits ok, but it's apparently very heavy and not worth the effort.
                Mounts wouldnt be to much bother, but the weight is something else...

                Would agree with the dont bother statement tho valver..
                Lots of MK 1 Scirocco's...

                If it aint a MK 1 then it must be a donor car ??

                Cheers,
                Grant...

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                • #9
                  guys in the UK who make the gemini 6sp squencel box also offer a kit for the o2a and 020 box to convert to 6sp..memory is a bit rusty but I think a few guys over in the UK went this way cheers steve

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                  • #10
                    just got the latest PVW and they have a write up on DIY 6 speed swaps. Could scan it up if anyone is interested, or you could just go buy the mag
                    76 MkI 3 door - daily drive/project - 1.8 5speed
                    76 MkI 3 door swallowtail - 16v track car
                    76 MkI 3 door "long term" project

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                    • #11
                      If you feel like scanning it I am interested. Even if you just pm me rather than posting it. I think my beezer would be sweet with a 6 speed.
                      2001 Bora 4 Motion Sport now used by number two son
                      2011 Skoda Octavia Scout now with Underground Performance tune
                      2010 Jetta 125 tdi dsg for the misses - Impressed
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                      • #12
                        02S box should fit. Uses the same mounting as 02a i think!
                        Various corrado's
                        MK2 Golf 16VG60

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                        • #13
                          I realise this thread is from earlier in the year, but I've just registered here (I know a few folks from the wider www, including Phaeton and Ausgolfer).

                          A six speed 02S box can be made to fit a Mk1 - it isn't too long, though you may find the tyre rubs on near-full lock, in which case a rack limiter is the best way to fully address it.

                          The old Gemini gearkits which were made in dog and semi-helical formats were effectively 02S gearboxes, long before VW made these themselves. They're an 02A/J gearbox with a 6-speed end casing.

                          Edit: oh and the Quaife 6-gearkit mentioned earlier fits inside the same 02A/J casing, with their casing extension, so they fit just the same.

                          I personally have an 02A/J Gemini 6-speeder in a Mk1, so can vouch for the fitment of one.

                          It fits fine with driveshafts from a late Scirocco/Golf 1 cabrio, 100mm inner c/w CVs.

                          Brackets are an issue, since they are different to an 020 - there are several places making them in the UK, though I realise that isn't mega helpful.

                          The 02S's a relatively rare - here is the best data I've seen on them:



                          As for the 02M six speeder, commonly found in various Golf 4s, A3s, Seats, they're a hugely heavy box, and need bespoke driveshafts, mountings etc etc. People are often trying to fit these and I've no doubt it's do-able, but it doesn't make for an easy life. Some people do it for the challenge, and fair enough. 8-)

                          This is also worth a look - a gearbox FAQ which is continually added to.



                          Hope useful.
                          Last edited by Guest; 06-01-2008, 09:15 PM.

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                          • #14
                            The Canberra VW Centre has a 6 speed sitting on the floor waiting to go.
                            MK1 floG soon to have 16v 2L with cable change gbox - need a 16v turbo manifold

                            "Fit the gearbox ya bum." Loon - best post ever!

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                            • #15
                              Just thought I'd add that the V5 manual Bora uses an 02j not an O2m , so the only 02ms available are the 4 motion ones . They are tricky to convert to fwd , Im working on it
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