506.01 T5 Owner - where to purchase 506.01 spec oil??????

[mattjenna]

I've worked out that I MUST run 506.01 spec oil in my 2005 R5 T5 and can't seem to source it anywhere other than a local dealer that has it in bulk and doesn't sell it in 5L containers etc.

Is anyone able to point me in the right direction to:

1. An oil manufacturer and oil name; and

2. A stockists please (I'm in Sydney)?

I've worked out that Liquid Molly does one, Synthoil Longtime Plus 0 W-30, however their local preferred stockists doesn't carry it and has difficulty in ordering any less than by boxes of 5L containers.

Would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Thanks
Matt

[Diesel_vert]

The following products are approved to VW oil standard 506.01, but availability is not guaranteed:

Elf Evolution CRV 0W-30
Total Australia

Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife Plus 0W-30
Fuchs Australia
Burson Auto Parts

Liqui Moly Synthoil Longtime Plus 0W-30
Liqui Moly Australia
TheCarCareStore

Motul Specific 506 01 506 00 503 00 0W-30
Motul Australia

Q8 Formula Excel EDX 0W-30
Q8 Oils distributor

Repsol Elite Turbo Life 50601 0W-30
Repsol Australia

Good hunting.

[mattjenna]

Thanks for the list-all seem pricey and hard to source.

A link was provided elsewhere on VWWatercooled to the following, which suggests that Penrite produces and oil which meets the 506.01 spec-I'll call them to follow up:

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/tech_pdfs/174%20ENGINE%20OILS%20FOR%20EUROPEAN%20CARS%202.pdf

Matt

[Diesel_vert]

Thanks for the list-all seem pricey and hard to source.

Such is the nature of approved 506.01 lubricants these days, unfortunately.

A link was provided elsewhere on VWWatercooled to the following, which suggests that Penrite produces and oil which meets the 506.01 spec-I'll call them to follow up

To date, Penrite do not have a product that has been certified and approved by Volkswagen to VW oil standard 506.01

Nevertheless, Penrite (as with any lubricant manufacturer) may recommend a product for applications calling for VW oil standard 506.01, if they themselves deem it suitable.

[brad]

This thread any help?

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f77/who-stocks-506-01-a-94052-2.html

506.01 isn't cheap - that's how it is

[Transporter]

A link was provided elsewhere on VWWatercooled to the following, which suggests that Penrite produces and oil which meets the 506.01 spec-I'll call them to follow up:

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/tech_pdfs/174%20ENGINE%20OILS%20FOR%20EUROPEAN%20CARS%202.pdf

Matt

For the sake of your R5 TDI engine stick with the approved oil, the saving is not worth it. Sooner or later the damage from wrong oil in your T5 will show up.

If there would be no 506.01 oil and I had to make a choice I would go with 507.00 oil preferably Mobil1 ESP and used (continue using) LiquiMoly MOS2 additive with every oil change. Though, still wouldn't be surprised when the valve train fails.

ELF Australia doesn't have 506.01 , never had.
Fuchs most likely doesn't bring it in anymore.
So, only the option is Liqui Moly Synthoil Longtime + 0W30 , which would cost less than Fuchs anyway.

[mattjenna]

Thank you for the considered replies.

It's really difficult to source the oil and so expensive-also, it seems that there's quite some confusion out there amongst mechanics etc. around the oil.

I'm not sure if anyone here is qualified to comment - however, I was under the impression that the 507 spec was OK so long as servicing was NOT on the long life program. Could it really be correct that the 6/2006 introduction of a DPF resulted in entirely different engine components - as far as I can work out there 507 spec is lower ash than the 506.01 and that's the difference in the spec?

Again, thanks.

Matt

[brad]

transporter has answered your question already.

I can see you are chasing an easy-to-purchase, reasonably priced alternative but it isn't available unfortunately.

[Amalgam]

From the Valvoline Lube Guide


SYNPOWER XL III 5W-30
A premium, long life synthetic engine oil designed for Volkswagen Euro IV engines with DPF (Diesel Particle Filter) requiring VW 504 and VW 507 technology. The product can also be used where VW 503.00, 506.00, 506.01 are specified. SynPower XL-III 5W-30 is suitable for engines with WIV system and for extra long drain intervals up to 30.000 Km. or 2 years. SynPower XL-III SAE 5W-30 can be used in modern VW, AUDI, Seat and Skoda gasoline and diesel engines and gives excellent protection even under extreme circumstances.

[brad]

It's a 504/507. What it's saying is that it can substitute for a 506.01. A lot of the 504/507 oils say that. My understanding is that it isn't the same chemical or lubricating composition.

[Diesel_vert]

I'm not sure if anyone here is qualified to comment - however, I was under the impression that the 507 spec was OK so long as servicing was NOT on the long life program. Could it really be correct that the 6/2006 introduction of a DPF resulted in entirely different engine components

Usually, PD TDI engines on the "Time and Distance" regime and "LongLife" regime use 505.01 and 506.01 respectively, or 507.00 if fitted with a DPF (irrespective of service regime).

However, no distinction is made in regards to the service regime and the application of 506.01 or 507.00 lubricants in R5 and V10 TDI engines.

My understanding is that R5 TDI engines fitted with a DPF as standard equipment (which call for VW 507.00) do at least have different engine codes.

As to what any differences there are regarding the engine itself (if any), that is something in which I'm simply not knowledgeable enough to give a definitive answer.

as far as I can work out there 507 spec is lower ash than the 506.01 and that's the difference in the spec?

That would be one difference, but it is unlikely to be the only difference.

From the Valvoline Lube Guide


SYNPOWER XL III 5W-30
A premium, long life synthetic engine oil designed for Volkswagen Euro IV engines with DPF (Diesel Particle Filter) requiring VW 504 and VW 507 technology. The product can also be used where VW 503.00, 506.00, 506.01 are specified. SynPower XL-III 5W-30 is suitable for engines with WIV system and for extra long drain intervals up to 30.000 Km. or 2 years. SynPower XL-III SAE 5W-30 can be used in modern VW, AUDI, Seat and Skoda gasoline and diesel engines and gives excellent protection even under extreme circumstances.

507.00 can be used in applications requiring 505.00, 505.01, 506.00 or 506.01 - except for certain R5 and V10 TDI engines.

The OP's vehicle (a 2005 VW Transporter with an R5 TDI engine and not equipped with a DPF) is one of those exceptions.

[Diesel_vert]

Do the following sites charge significantly less for VW 503.00/506.00/506.01 approved lubricants than a Volkswagen dealer?

Fuchs Titan Supersyn LongLife Plus 0W-30: $88.63/4L
CDA Eastland Trade Supplies

Liqui Moly Synthoil Longtime Plus 0W-30: $149.95/5L
TheCarCareStore

Repsol Elite Turbo Life 50601 0W-30: $21.95/1L
Repsol online store

[Umai Naa!!]

Still around $150 for the Castrol stuff at the dealership.

[Slacker]

506.01 is the long service live spec. standard 15000km service oil for 2005 T5 is 505.01, Penrite Enviro+5W40 meets this spec (http://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/...0%20505.01.pdf) and is available in Repco and many retailers.
Cheers Slacker

[Transporter]

506.01 is the long service live spec. standard 15000km service oil for 2005 T5 is 505.01, Penrite Enviro+5W40 meets this spec (http://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/...0%20505.01.pdf) and is available in Repco and many retailers.
Cheers Slacker

...and for the sake of your engine, stick with the approved oil only.

Meets, exceeds and similar claimes just indicate that the oil is not approved.

Liqui Moly has VW506.01 approved oil, which SYNTHOIL LONGTIME PLUS | 0W-30 – LIQUI-MOLY Australia