Help, Penrite 5w30 Enviro+ GF5, not VW approved?

[vwmaniac]

Hi to all.
Today I dropped my TSI Tiguan with some European specialist mechanic down the road for an interim service, I told him to use Penrite 5w30 oil as I have always been.

However when I came back from work to pick up the car I saw an empty Penrite 5w30 Enviro+ GF5 bottle which I know is a different oil to the one VW approves, they do look very similar though.

I brought it up to the mechanic and was told not to worry as they are close enough. So should I worry and do some immediate rectification or just leave as is and no damage will be done to the engine. Please advise.

[Umai Naa!!]

GF5 is a Dexos1-approved General Motors oil.

It is not 504/507-approved for Volkswagen.

Ideally, it needs to be replaced, along with a new filter.

[Diesel_vert]

Today I dropped my TSI Tiguan with some European specialist mechanic down the road for an interim service

I told him to use Penrite 5w30 oil

At last count, Penrite make 22 products with a viscosity grade of 5W-30, three of which are part of their Enviro+ range, so the mechanic did well to narrow it down, even if he (or she) ultimately chose a product that neither VW nor Penrite would recommend for your vehicle.

However when I came back from work to pick up the car I saw an empty Penrite 5w30 Enviro+ GF5 bottle which I know is a different oil to the one VW approves, they do look very similar though.

I brought it up to the mechanic and was told not to worry as they are close enough. So should I worry and do some immediate rectification or just leave as is and no damage will be done to the engine. Please advise.

It's possible that Penrite Enviro+ GF-5 5W-30 could work in your vehicle, though unlike your mechanic, neither VW nor Penrite nor myself will vouch for it, so if you decide to leave it in, it's all on him (or her).

However, if you want to be pragmatic, probably best to drain and replace it with something that's a known quantity (i.e. oils with VW approval).

[Guest001]

Saw that stuff at Supercrap last week and had a good look at the container.

As Diesel Vert says its a GM approved oil and nowhere does it mention VW.

It was on the shelf beside the correct oil so maybe the muppet that bought it didn't check.

I had the Polo serviced at a "reputable" VW non dealer service centre and they put the wrong UNAPPROVED oil in it and I had to get it replaced along with the filter

I complained bitterly, with documentation to prove the oil they used was wrong and got a refund to pay for the new stuff.

I suggest you show them the container and demand they fix it.

NEXT TIME buy the correct oil and take it with you as I do Even at the Stealers. Polo goes in on Tuesday and there will be 5 liters of Enviro+ going with it.

[Transporter]

No, I would say, change the mechanic. It's obvious that he is unable to read and he doesn't understand how important is the right oil for the modern engine. He doesn't deserve your business.

[Guest001]

No, I would say, change the mechanic. It's obvious that he is unable to read and he doesn't understand how important is the right oil for the modern engine. He doesn't deserve your business.

Agree I wont be going back Now go to dealer but provide my own oil.

[vwmaniac]

Thanks for the tips guys, it's just one of those annoying things where you want to spend that bit extra time and money to be nicer to your car but ends up hurting it.

Plus I do believe there is a cost factor involved. The GF5 is simply lot cheaper to buy. So by charging me hundred odd bucks there is considerably more profit.

[Polo GTEye N9]

Drain it out and use it in your lawnmower LOl

[Guest001]

Thanks for the tips guys, it's just one of those annoying things where you want to spend that bit extra time and money to be nicer to your car but ends up hurting it.

Plus I do believe there is a cost factor involved. The GF5 is simply lot cheaper to buy. So by charging me hundred odd bucks there is considerably more profit.

Enviro+ is normally about $83-89 I buy it when its on special for $65-69

[Greg Roles]

I'd be worried in a diesel, as you need the 507 part, but in a petrol I thought it was more the 504 component, which does seem to be a lot more widespread amongst oils??

[Diesel_vert]

I'd be worried in a diesel, as you need the 507 part, but in a petrol I thought it was more the 504 component, which does seem to be a lot more widespread amongst oils??

VW won't approve any product unless it meets both specs.

You'll never find an approved oil that meets the petrol spec (504.00) but not the diesel spec (507.00) and vice-versa.

[RubAVeeDubDub]

Just this weekend I was looking at oil for my Bora 4mo. Need to do an oil service after I lost it all through a busted sump.

Looked through the service book and I need VW 500/502. This has now been superceeded with VW 502/505.
The stealership recommend Castrol Edge 5w30 but I've never been a fan of their products and looked for alternatives.

Checked out the Penrite varieties of oil, and there are varieties they make that are VW approved. They are the 5w30 Enviro+ versions but it needs to be specified. The GF5+ variety is for GM vehicles. ed.

The one I bought had a volkswagen approved sticker on it and on the back it specified the standard it adhered too (VW 502). Penrite have official VW approval letters listed on their site. I bought the Penrite Enviro+ 5w40 as it was VW 502 approved.

I've used Penrite in my last two cars and had no problems. My last car's noisy tappets were fixed with Penrite oil and I even gained a slight fuel consumption improvement. Even when I tracked the car, 10,000kms later it came out in perfect colour - not burnt or gluggy at all. Yet to hear a bad word against Penrite from anyone I ask.

[gazzmo]

Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30 full synthetic is VW 504/507 approved the Enviro+ GF-5 is not, I have seen the GF-5 for $40 but the approved one is around $80 when not on special.

[Ryeman]

The Penrite sight list the 5-30 Enviro+ oil as meeting VW 507 but under the fixed prices servicing agreement I've just signed when I got my new Yeti yesterday, they will charge for their oil anyway so it seems there is no way I can get around it.
I would like to use it though.

[Guest001]

The Penrite sight list the 5-30 Enviro+ oil as meeting VW 507 but under the fixed prices servicing agreement I've just signed when I got my new Yeti yesterday, they will charge for their oil anyway so it seems there is no way I can get around it.
I would like to use it though.

Well mine was done under fixed price 2 weeks ago and they just didn't add the price of the oil on.

It usually a fixed labour charge plus oils and parts.

When I was asking prices they wanted to charge $118 for a 5L of oil, when it was $93 in the service dept, so I said I will provide the oil.

No problem am happy with the subsequent pricing