CQuartz Experiences?

[aVex]

Has anyone tried CQuartz? Seems like another product that is similar to GTechniq and Optimum offerings albeit being more affordable. I'm planning on trying this out but thought I'd like to hear from anyone that has tried this before.

Welcome to the Aqua Glass

[fuzion]

apparently a type of 'nano' coat, but after reading how many times they changed partnerships as they had apparent fall outs with the original creator and scientist of the product i am curious to where its getting made as it has done its rounds apparently..

nanolex, gtechniq are proven and are genuine nano tech from the same supplier from the start.. personally i am a bit weary when products change manufacturers and names (aquartz?)

nothing is indestructible at the end of the day. gtechniq and nanolex allow you to apply 1 coat that will last a min 12 months if not more and providing you wash your car and look after it you could always stretch the recommended minimum protection it offers.

Personally a 12-18 month is best option as every 1-2 years your car needs a birthday detail to spruce it up again to remove any wash spider webbing etc. And if someone believes that the car doesnt get these than your on crack or wash your car once a year lol :p

my 2psi

[Merrick]

apparently a type of 'nano' coat, but after reading how many times they changed partnerships as they had apparent fall outs with the original creator and scientist of the product i am curious to where its getting made as it has done its rounds apparently..

nanolex, gtechniq are proven and are genuine nano tech from the same supplier from the start.. personally i am a bit weary when products change manufacturers and names (aquartz?)

nothing is indestructible at the end of the day. gtechniq and nanolex allow you to apply 1 coat that will last a min 12 months if not more and providing you wash your car and look after it you could always stretch the recommended minimum protection it offers.
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There are better products available in Australia lasting 7 or more years without any reapplication or using any enhancement products such as ‘special car wash shampoo’ and $37 for 250ml of carwash shampoo is not cheap.

Personally a 12-18 month is best option as every 1-2 years your car needs a birthday detail to spruce it up again to remove any wash spider webbing etc. And if someone believes that the car doesnt get these than your on crack or wash your car once a year lol :p

my 2psi

Don’t get me wrong but if you do so called ‘a birthday detail’ every 12 months how much paint is left on the car after 5 years? Personally I don’t want such dramatic treatment to be performed on my car every 12 months or so, the prevention is better than a cure. My car is three years old now with 60K on the clock, 90% of my driving is between Brisbane and Gold Coast and it has no signs of stone chips or scratches or spider webs. Am I lucky? I don’t think so, but I believe I do something right.

[fuzion]

I would definitely like to see photos of the paint, in direct sunlight of a slr camera and not a phone camera

If you use a da machine you would take of .2-.4 of the paint. Clear is usually 12-20 microns, an average paint on a vw/audi is 100-140 microns. You do the maths. But i am sure your well aware of this yes?

Where did this shampoo thing come from? But of course, sus newbee knows but wont lead on from where he may be from :p

In all seriousness, any protection you have over the paint is much better than having nothing. Anyone who knows something about protecting your paint and wanting to have their car looking 110%, and are fastidious about their ride would take care of it.

Gtechniq, nanolex, cquartz, opticoat whoever you choose its your choice at the end of the day. Nothing is permanent at the end of the day though as much as they all claim it may be, if it was.. we'd all have it by now lol

[Merrick]

I would definitely like to see photos of the paint, in direct sunlight of a slr camera and not a phone camera

i am sorry i love to do this but i am having a problem to upload files(getting an error message). Once I sort the problem out i will upload them.

If you use a da machine you would take of .2-.4 of the paint. Clear is usually 12-20 microns, an average paint on a vw/audi is 100-140 microns. You do the maths. But i am sure your well aware of this yes?

It is not so simple as you are trying to say, isn’t it? The last thing I would recommend to Joe average to try removing scratches from the paint unless they really know what they are doing. As you know the scratches are not the same, some are just shallow some are deeper as some may be even deeper then clear coat. The last thing is to go through the clear coat.

Where did this shampoo thing come from? But of course, sus newbee knows but wont lead on from where he may be from :p

It is called Nanolex Reactivating Shampoo and is available from Car Care Products / Nanolex / Exterior / Wash Shampoos / Reactivating Shampoo and $36.95 per 250ml plus postage is not cheap. Perhaps you know Glare and again the same story, to get their paint protection last you have to use their carwash shampoo the cost is about $25 per 250ml plus postage. Again Toughseal paint protection uses instead of carwash shampoo so called Dry Wash & Shine every 6 months. The cost is about $25 per 100ml plus postage. What is interesting not many detailers know about this ongoing maintenance, or perhaps are they trying to hide it? Then you have Xpeck, platinum paint protection and the list can go on and on. What they have common is they may save you some money at the beginning but ongoing maintenance may get very expensive and usually it cost you more then you paid for the paint protection in first place.

In all seriousness, any protection you have over the paint is much better than having nothing.

ditto

Anyone who knows something about protecting your paint and wanting to have their car looking 110%, and are fastidious about their ride would take care of it.

Gtechniq, nanolex, cquartz, opticoat whoever you choose its your choice at the end of the day. Nothing is permanent at the end of the day though as much as they all claim it may be, if it was.. we'd all have it by now lol

Yes this is true, nothing is permanent. Only difference is the quality and durability of the paint protection systems offered on the Australian market. What I found many people are mislead from car dealers and also from aftermarket detailers when they purchase paint protection from them. It may be just lack of product knowledge or they are deliberately misleading to get the job. I do understand that many people rather spend $400 for the paint protection then $800. But if the same detailer offering one brand paint protection for $400 and the other brand paint protection for $800 them I would think twice before I make a decision and ask a lot of questions as you may finish with spending $750 -$1000 during next five to seven years on aftermarket products to keep your car looking good. And many people don’t want to spend so much for carwash shampoo or just inconvenience to get this product easy when they need to.

[fuzion]

To be honest the thread is going no where and you can see your posts are slowly turning into promotional purposes for a advertising down the line somewhere.

Theres no where i noticed though from Nanolex, CQuartz, GTechniq claiming you NEED to use their Shampoo at all on any sites though. Most do state it reactivates your sealant like many other brands claim to do so. Dealerships another story clearly.

The end for me, pointless as they germans would say ... umziehen ist kein zuckerschlecken..

[Corey_R]

The thread does seem a bit all over the place...

I personally find it funny that Nanolex Reactivating Shampoo for $36.95 for 250ml was sighted as being "not cheap".

Let me see... 20 to 25ml per 10L of water equals a dilution ratio of 400 to 500:1. Since the bottle is 250ml, you can get 10 to 12.5 washes per bottle, or a "cost per wash" of $2.96 to $3.70


Or you could go something "cheap" right... like Meguiars? Or maybe Duragloss 901 for only $15.95 for 473ml.
Of course... once you get it and find it says "3 caps per (US) gallon", and then you measure the 3 caps and find it's 45ml, which means 45ml to 3785ml of water. Or a dilution ratio of 84:1

10000 / 3785 = 2.642007926023778 * 45 = 118.89035667107
473 / 118.89035667107 = 3.978455555555556
15.95 / 3.978455555555556 = 4.009093422629105

Hmmm... same 10L wash means your "cost per wash" is $4.00

Now how's saying that Nanolex isn't cheap?

[fuzion]

lol corey. technical or what lol.

So whats the dilution of a 2litre nxt gen wash vs say, autoglym 1ltr wash.

I think most washes (not off the shelf, but more boutique i suppose maybe you could say?) like P21S, Dodo Juice, Poor Boys, Wolfs, Duragloss, Zaino, Wolfgang, Sonus are usually 1:400, 1:500, 1:600, 1:800+ for 'dilution' rates.

And i think if we worry about $5 to wash our cars then you definitely shouldn't be owning a car or anything thats worth washing lets be honest here lol. Some people pay $35-$110 to have their car annihilated by car washes! Now thats just ludicrous!

[Merrick]

Hmmmm... here is my calculation:
Meguiar's Gold Class Car Wash Shampoo/Conditioner 1.9L is about $26 (could be cheaper elsewhere), 4 full caps are about 50ml so you can get about 38 carwashes from a bottle. The cost per car wash is $1.46 compared to $3.70 and you forgot to include the cost of postage. I guess it could be additional $8 to $10 so the cost could jump to $4.80 per carwash.
The Meguiar's products are available almost in "every corner shop" so the pickup cost none unless you have to go just for shampoo only. And there are much cheaper carwash shampoos available on the market. I don’t believe you need something fancy to wash your car. My car shampoo cost me $2.80 a litre, carwash only I don’t even bother to calculate, sorry.
What I need from my carwash shampoo is to be PH balanced, able to dissolve the road grim and lubricate during car washing process.

[Corey_R]

lol.... I don't know about the others!

I used to use Meguiars (used about the same dliution as Duragloss 901) and when I placed a large order at CCP, I couldn't decide which way to go so I just bought the Duragloss 901 ($15.95 375ml), Dodo Juice Born To Be Mild ($26 250ml) and Dodo Juice Supernatural ($40 250ml). What was interesting is that they're all awesome products, but the "cost per wash" of those three at least is contrary to their purchase price. The Supernatural being the cheapest (significantly) with cost per wash! So unless something else comes along which is worth a try, I'll stick with the Supernatural


Edit: Just saw Merrick's latest post. I used Meguiars Gold Class for 6 years... 4 capfuls might be what their website says, but it was not enough in my experience. Also, you can get larger quanities of the other washes too...

In any case, car washes are like many things, different flavours for different peoples

[Merrick]

Yes that’s right some people like cherry flavour, some may like vanilla flavour in the car wash shampoo. What I would like to know why you would spend $400 on a paint protection which should last 5 years and the maintenance additional $800 to $1000 in carwash shampoo.
It makes more sense to me to spend $800 for good paint protection and $40 on carwash shampoo.

[Corey_R]

Because I don't know of any paint protection that lasts 5 or 7 years...

And thus far, you haven't actually given us any names either

[Merrick]

Because I don't know of any paint protection that lasts 5 or 7 years...

And thus far, you haven't actually given us any names either

Just search Google for paint protection that lasts 5 or 7 years using your own keywords. I don't want to promote any particular brand and to be accused I am selling something here.

[Corey_R]

Well... I've searched far and wide, and searches such as the above either just come up with snake oil, people whinging about snake oil, even motoring organisations such as NRMA producing editorials warning people about snake oil...

The only stuff which lasts 5 or 7 years are Paint Protection Films...
Maybe "aftermarket hard clear coats" - but the jury is out on them, cause they haven't yet been out for 5 or 7 years.

There are plenty of products which SAY they last 5 or 7, or even more years, but the reality is they don't.
Take g|Techniq C1. It's garanteed for 5 years. But no detailer who knows ANYTHING will give you that guarantee certificate, cause we all know it's more realistically 2 years. It's still a great product for those 2 years though...

[NickZ]

NO paint protection will last 5-7 years. I don't care what anyone or any company says. Anyone who says this is a con and is not reputable. Sorry to be so blunt, but thats the way it is. You only have to look at how much crap you pick up off a clay bar after 12 months on the road to see that there is no way a car can go for 5-7 years without a spring clean.

I know people who maintained their car with Turtle Wax and Armor All wash. After 10 years the paint is in good nick, simply by reapplying the Turtle Wax every 3 months. You can go cheap or go expensive, depending on your budget and personal preference, but as long as you are putting on some sort of protection on a regular basis you will be fine. Usually, a wax should be reapplied every 3 months whilst sealants can last 12 months.

Me personally, I am moving to Nanolex sealant and re-activating car wash. It costs $120 for a litre for the car wash. Using 20mL per wash equates to about 50 washes, or a cost of $2.40 which is not much more than meguiars, for what is a better product. Washing your car once a fortnight will cost less than a tank of fuel over the year. ($60)

The nanolex sealant and cleaner will come close to $100 for the larger bottle, but that will be good for applying at least 6 times onto a decent sized car, so it could last six years. So lets say the average cost per year is $20.

A good claybar is $50 and one claybar is good for two applications. So lets say $25 per year.

Some polish - for arguments sake, $30 per year.

So, with some other incidentals, it is easy to maintain your car with high quality products for $150 per year, which in the grand scheme of car ownership is peanuts!!!!!!!!! Think how much you spend on rego, CTP, insurance, fuel, depreciation, servicing, etc.