Swisswax

[kryten2001]

Hi Guys -

Anybody out there used Swissvax products? Comments?

[DUB 20V]

yes i have the milk and somthing else i got from waxit for my leather seats works very well.

[kryten2001]

Anybody tried any of the waxes?

I'm a bit of a gold class (maguiars) fan, but I was wondering how this stuff compares.

Gold class is pretty good (I love it in fact) as it's got some very light polishing compounds in along with the wax - but I am really curious what a $300+ wax will buy you in terms of quality..

[Manaz]

it's got some very light polishing compounds in along with the wax

Is that actually a positive? I thought the point of wax was to build up a layer of protection, not to take more clearcoat off the car...

[Mrk_Mickey]

It's very hard to compare a Meguiars 'wax' to a high quality real wax like Swissvax or Dodo Juice etc. Main reason for this is because the percentage of natural Carnuba wax found in the waxes off the Supercheap shelf are very very low. The high quality waxes have a much stronger amount of Carnuba wax, and offer better protection and durability than the lesser quality ones.

I favour Dodo juice waxes, but I haven't used Swissvax so can't comment on them. I do know they're good though!

[DMS_Dan]

Anybody tried any of the waxes?

I'm a bit of a gold class (maguiars) fan, but I was wondering how this stuff compares.

Gold class is pretty good (I love it in fact) as it's got some very light polishing compounds in along with the wax - but I am really curious what a $300+ wax will buy you in terms of quality..

No its got fillers in it which hide the swirl marks.

There is no comparison between the two. Swissvax will kill the gold class.

Personally i prefer the value of the Dodo wax. but either one will leave you amazed.

Its also worth noting that for best results from either brand you should use their pre wax cleanser before the first application.

[carcareproducts]

Anybody tried any of the waxes?

I'm a bit of a gold class (maguiars) fan, but I was wondering how this stuff compares.

Gold class is pretty good (I love it in fact) as it's got some very light polishing compounds in along with the wax - but I am really curious what a $300+ wax will buy you in terms of quality..

Like a couple of others have said it is like comapring a 3 legged donkey with Makybe Diva - they are both the same animal but have very different appearance and performance!

Hi Guys -

Anybody out there used Swissvax products? Comments?

I have used a number of the Swissvax products including their waxes such as Concorso, Saphir, Zuffenhausen - they are excellent quality and offer great results if the preparation is good (polished and cleaner fluid) The blend of premium carnauba wax and natural oils is similar to those of Dodo Juice and both brands offer exceptional results, only possible by these mostly natural products.

A wax such as this will always offer better looks than a synthetic product, however surface preparation is a big key.

[JVLR32]

Most of above comments are on target....if u dont have prep work they are all waste of time!

each to there own....i use meg stuff and cause my prep is done well i see it lasting a quiet awhile..

[Ankush]

Most of above comments are on target....if u dont have prep work they are all waste of time!

each to there own....i use meg stuff and cause my prep is done well i see it lasting a quiet awhile..

I have just bought new GTI and was wondering as to what would be the best products for cleaning and waxing the car. Was looking into Meguiars range.

Also was tryying to understand prep work, can anyone please provide me to a link or some information. Maybe attend the CCP workshop on 1st May will help.

[DMS_Dan]

The workshop will definitely help!

In the interim look here http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=34208

[Pharkus]

I use Swissvax Concorso and at the start of this year got onto the new quick detailer - Swissvax Nanoexpress. This is having gone from Meguiars NXT 2.0 (and having previously used Megauiars Gold Class on my previous car).

My car is not really a daily drive, always kept garaged. I tend to do a quick rinse off once every 2 weeks. You will need to consider durability and time committment issues if yours is subject to more weather than that.

In summary, I love the Swissvax product. IMHO even if you only kept your car for 3-4 years, the cost of $125 - $167 a year for the better product (Based upon $360 for concorso, $50 Nanoexpress & Other minor costs, as well as time taken to maintain it) is not a bad spend.

Application: Meguiars is definitely easier to apply and buff off. With the Swissvax you have to be really careful to apply as little as possible. There is only so much product that adheres to your paint work, the rest is wiped off when you buff the wax off. This is even after applying the cleaner fluid step as advised. Best thing to do if you want additional layers is to reapply after the first layer of wax has had time to cure.

Time: Concorso takes an absolute buttload of time. This could be me, but now having done a reapplication and knowing the amount of product, how to apply it and buff it off etc. it still takes ages compared with the Meguiars. One factor is probably because you tend to be a bit more careful when the product costs 10 times as much.

Cost: Taking the above comment into account, I think you actually use less product with the Swissvax than the Meguiars. Hand application versus pad application also allows for less wastage of product. My tub is now almost 1 year old and I still have well over 2/3 of the product left.

Durability: I don't have any more photos of Meguiars product, however see below for the Swissvax Concorso. Photos are pretty dark, but after 120 days (I noted this as first application was day before Eurospeed BBQ GTG) compared with reapplication, there is very little difference in the beading. Also, noticed at the car wash that the Swissvax was a lot better at allowing you to simply spray off any dirt collected during the interval between maintenance.

2 Layers of Swissvax Concorso (120 Days after initital application of wax)


After reapplication of 1 coat of Swissvax Concorso and 1 layer of Swissvax Nanoexpress

[Bboy_Sparx]

Swissvax = dopewax

[carcareproducts]

I thought I would just point out a few points on cost:

Off the Shelf Products - eg Nxt Tech Wax
Cost about $50
Durability about 5-7 weeks
No of applications to a medium Car about 7-8
So Best Option 8 apps x 7 weeks durability = 56 weeks 'wax protection'
Cost per week ($50/56) = $0.89


Premium Products - eg Dodo Juice Blue Velvet
Cost about $90
Durability about 8-12 weeks
No of applications to a medium Car about 20-25
So Worst Option 20 apps x 8 weeks durability = 160 weeks 'wax protection'
Cost per week ($90/160) = $0.56

So the Premium product not only offers a better look but it is 35% better value for money than the 'cheaper' product...

[JVLR32]

Cant agree with the above comment!....Ive seen Megs lasting up too 6 months with one coat!....conditions here on mid north coast salty,wet

No disrespect to Carcare products

[Pharkus]

That would depend on what conditions you are referring to.

1. Do you keep the car garaged every day? Both at work and at home.
2. Is the car a daily drive?
3. How often do you give the car a quick rinse and touch up with quick detailer?

All of the above will affect the length of a wax/sealant's durability. I'm not trying to promote the more expensive stuff over the kind that you can get from Autobarn or whereever, but from my limited research the Swissvax has lasted much longer and provided a better look for "me".

Also, by lasting 6 months, do you look at the way the water continues to bead? Are the beads round in shape suggesting more hydrophobic qualities enduring in the wax/sealant? How easy does everyday dirt and grime rinse off with a high pressure hose from the paintwork?

If you are saying that Megs works for you then continue using that product.

I just like the passionfruit smell of mine.