Passat B7 or Superb

[woofy]

I don't mind the Sedan, the twin door is really handy, we are thinking either wagon or sedan in the next 12 mths. Sedan/hatch is useful where you don't want a boot coming out further than the back of the car when you open it, but you have to look up but can fit them in smaller spaces.....things most people don't realise...the wagon opens back more so you can't have the back up against something.

Resale of Skodas is pretty much a myth, I've not seen any evidence that they hold value less than a VW and there are less of them about and a long waiting list half the time. If anything when people have sold them, they got a lot more than they expected.

[thejack72]

Well, there's one more factor that caused me to lean more toward Passat. The VW dealer will give me a 2012 plated Passat in Jan when my current lease ends, cuz their shipment comes in Dec. Whereas Skoda's shipment comes in Oct, so it will be a 2011 plated car... So for $90 more, I get a car that is one year newer as well.

Did the dealer say 2012 plated or built? HUGE difference when it comes to resale. I know a number of people who bought late 20XX built cars that weren't complianced or registered til following year & every single one of them got screwed when they sold them. The valuer looked straight at the build date, not compliance, and priced it as a year older car.

If resale is a factor, I'd be very wary about build vs plated.

Aside from all that, we looked at both Passat & Superb too. Decision came down to $'s (bang for buck Passat can't touch Superb once you spec it up to same level) & the fact that Superb was nicer to drive.

[K1W1]

Well, there's one more factor that caused me to lean more toward Passat. The VW dealer will give me a 2012 plated Passat in Jan when my current lease ends, cuz their shipment comes in Dec. Whereas Skoda's shipment comes in Oct, so it will be a 2011 plated car. (the shipment needs to come with their bulk orders so I can get the discount). So for $90 more, I get a car that is one year newer as well.

Somebody is telling porkies.

[VAG newbie]

It's 2012 plated. Impossible to get 2012 built car in Jan with imported cars. So with Aussie cars, people look at built date, import car, compliance date. Well, at least that was what I was told when I bought a used BMW that was advertised as 2001. The built date was Oct 2000, but compliance Jan 2001. When I sold the car privately, I said the same thing to buyer, no problem. VW purposely keep that shipment late and don't get complied until after new year so they can sell that batch as 2012 cars! It will worth a bit more than 2011 plated car as the latter you can't advertise as 2012 car. Of course, 2012 built is still better than 2012 plated, but gotta wait till at least Mar - Apr.

For novated lease, if resale cannot pay for the agreed residual amount, the emplyee is expected to pay the difference to financier, so it does matter.

It's all a bit of myth now with Superb's resale value. Redbook score it pretty well but glass's guide score it poorly. I think the demand Vs supply says it best. Well, we know the supply is very small, which is good (at least I can bet Superb would have better resale than Falcodorion!) question is demand. That's why I'm asking all you Skoda fans and experts here, rather than posting it under passat section. If I did the latter, I would be hammered by every die hard VW fans there, thinking I was crazy even asking the question.

For those of you who still can't believe the price I got, I got it through a car broker and I was told it was because I work for QLD government and apparently VW gives further corporate discount on top of the fleet discount, but Skoda doesn't. My colleague got his base model Passat 118TSI $38990 drive away, brand new, 2011 built, Immediate delivery! (On top of that, GST free as it was a novated lease, so we are looking at $35000 on road!! Crazy huh!?)

I wish I was telling a lie than I wouldn't have to worry and go straight to Superb.

[Jake02]

The VW dealer will give me a 2012 plated Passat in Jan when my current lease ends, because their shipment comes in Dec. Whereas Skoda's shipment comes in Oct, so it will be a 2011 plated car (the shipment needs to come with their bulk orders so I can get the discount). So for $90 more, I get a car that is one year newer as well.

They'll both be MY12 right?

[Jake02]

The VW dealer will give me a 2012 plated Passat in Jan when my current lease ends, because their shipment comes in Dec. Whereas Skoda's shipment comes in Oct, so it will be a 2011 plated car (the shipment needs to come with their bulk orders so I can get the discount). So for $90 more, I get a car that is one year newer as well.

They'll both be MY12 right?

[VAG newbie]

Aside from all that, we looked at both Passat & Superb too. Decision came down to $'s (bang for buck Passat can't touch Superb once you spec it up to same level) & the fact that Superb was nicer to drive.

By looking at RRP, yes, Superb definitely better bang for $. But what I got now is only $90 difference, with Passat scoring 1 year newer (or 0.5, as it's plated, not built), lane departure warning, driver fatigue detection system (MY12 you can have both), LED daytime headlights, bixenon headlight, GPS, park assist 2 that does reverse and parallel, walnut trim, XDLS, bluemotion technology with stop/start function, full size alloy spare! Although no power front seats, no heated rear seats, 2 speakers less than skoda (but you get 6 CDs, $780 option with Superb), less room and less style. Ambience is definitely with Superb.

In terms of drivability, I think both very good, although I don't know how the XDLS will improve it with the MY12 Passat.

So in terms of bang for $, unfortunately it is with Passat now.

Oh, yes, I also added $1980 option to Superb (MP + park assist) which narrowed the price difference between the 2.

[VAG newbie]

They'll both be MY12 right?

Yes, both MY12, as both are factory orders. And I don't need it till Jan next year anyway.

I suppose the price would be the same even if I requested a 2012 built car, but I can't wait for that long as my current lease ends in Jan 2012.

[K1W1]

no heated rear seats,

When you've been driving like I have for the last week or so and the ice warning has almost permanently been on (ie below 4C) you just buy the car with the heated seats. Other options seem irrelevant.

[VAG newbie]

Yes, it's a very handy feature. The other day I had it on and my fellow passenger fell asleep right away!

[Transporter]

Though, it's not for every one. If you're young male and want to start family or you still want to have kids, don't use it very often. Here is why. My daughter is 6th year medical student and she agrees.

[woofy]

I dunno, I hurt my back last year and had it up even in warm weather to help free up my back.....Still managed to end up with another daughter first try without much effort....either that or all the Y Sperm were baked....

[VAG newbie]

That's very interesting. Yes, I think it's true. My mum used to ask me not to sleep with my jeans on because it will be too hot for the testicles. She actually encouraged me to sleep naked!! well, she was right, now she already got 2 grandsons! But I'm not sure if I'm gonna have more. Those 2 monsters are already driving me crazy!!

Back to the subject. I feel like I fell in love with 2 women. One makes me happy whenever I am with her (Superb). But the other has all these virtues that will make a good wife and really takes care of me (the Passat)!

Wish I can just marry one and have an affair with the other (of course I don't do that in my marriage life! Because it wasn't that hard when I proposed to my wife, and she has been and will always be my true love)! I think after I pick one, when I see the other on the road, I'll still take a good look at it as my lost love (I am talking about cars here, not women)

[BlackSuperb]

Though, it's not for every one. If you're young male and want to start family or you still want to have kids, don't use it very often. Here is why. My daughter is 6th year medical student and she agrees.

And to think I went through a painful operation 15 years ago to achieve the same result.

[theduckster]

Back in February, I looked at a FSI Passat and the salesman said he wouldn't be able to match the price, but come the new model he said that it was most likely that they could do a far better deal. I didn't want to wait the few months to find out so I just ordered my Superb. I knew what I was getting and in my mind I was happy with the decision to order the Superb. Thank god the boat finally docks with it on Friday lol.

If I was in the same situation here I would go with the Passat. To me, it's the safer option lease wise as as you can get a far better idea of what the end value will be. With the Superb the end figure would be under more doubt than with the Passat. But in the end, if the end value isn't too much of a concern then go with your heart and get another Superb on our roads!

If the 125TDI Superb is the Elegance model that you have been quoted upon, then I would query the park assist price as the MY12 model are now getting the front parking sensors as standard, which could lead too park assist becoming a standard feature just like the wagon. Dealers at the moment don't have dealer pricing or the exact specific's of the MY12 model yet either. So I would assume the Skoda dealer is going off spec's and prices on the MY11 model. MY12 models go into production in July for the Superb. If you need to make a decision now then you can only go off the information that you have now. If you can afford to wait a month or two, then the MY12 Superb may just turn out to be the better option. But right now, the Passat looks mighty good!