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  • Superb test drive.

    Out of the blue on Friday I got a call from Bayford Skoda where I bought my car. "We have the Superb from the motor show for the next few days and were wondering if you feel like taking it for a drive?" Well that's a bloody silly question-of course I would!
    So today I went in and had a drive. The Superb was the Ambition model with the 1.8 TFSI and 7 speed DSG. There was a little chat about some of the features and a demonstration of the 2 piece tailgate/boot, but then it was mine for a while. Oddly, the dealer didn't come with me.
    The first thing that hit me was how roomy it was-with the seat all the way back I could barely reach the pedals (i'm a shade over 6 foot tall) and there was still room in the back for an adult. The space would compare well to a Commodore or Falcon.I was impressed by how solid and how well put together the car was-but it's a Skoda and we expect that.
    The engine was a surprise. I know the 1.8 TFSI is a gem but this is a big heavy car. The engine didn't seem to know about power to weight ratios and performed well. It's not going to win many drag races but it does the job. The engine does rev a bit through the gears which makes it feel like you're going faster than you actually are. It did seem to labour a little uphill but not enough to worry about.
    The DSG was also very good-I've never driven a better automatic. Shifts were clean and smooth both in Auto or Manual mode. It seemed to match the engine very well. Only complaint was if you floor the go pedal the engine revs but the DSG hesitates before dropping a gear or 2. Annoying but fairly normal in most auto's I've driven.
    Ride was good, very little road noise, steering was very similar to the Octavia. Handling seemed pretty good and it stuck to the wet roads well.
    Inside was a nice place to be. Full leather interior, front and back seats heated, god knows how many speakers (we found 10) and touchscreen radio. A nice touch was the lumbar support in both front seats. Not only could you adjust the pressure (electronically of course) but you could also adjust the height and put pressure in a different spot. Instruments were easy to read and the steering wheel was comfortable to use. Main complaint here is the drink holders in the centre console. They are close to the driver with the handbrake lever on the passenger side of the console. This means in manual mode you reach accross the drinks to change gear-and if there happens to be a bottle in there (like the water bottle my daughter put in) your forearm hits it every time.
    So no real complaints although I wouldn't go for the 1.8 myself. This is a fairly luxurious car and the engine just sounds too revvy and small for it. I'd go for the V6. I mentioned to the dealer that if it came as a wagon this would be a winner as a family car. He said to wait until next year-it could be happening.
    Would I buy one? Well-no as it's no longer the sort of car I need or want. But if I was where I was 4 or 5 years ago with 3 kids and the need for a large car-then yes I would. On price, size and standard equipment it compares well with the Holden Berlina (as long as you settle for the 1.8 ) and as a wagon I would have found it hard to resist. But where I am now I'll keep the RS. I told the salesman I had no intention of buying one when he rang, but they weren't selling-they were evaluating which is why they were ringing existing customers. Anyone else get a call? All I had do do after was answer 5 simple questions and was on my way. Not a bad way to kill a Saturday arvo!
    Last edited by wombatoutofhell; 05-04-2009, 05:22 PM. Reason: get rid of obscure smiley caused by putting a ) too close to a 8

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    I've had the Richmond guys say they'll get me in for a drive....probably won't have time at the moment though.

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    • #3
      Sensible fleet choice

      Good initial review. I reckon they are a smart choice as a large car.

      Without wishing to infer negative conotations associated with 'Fleet' cars, something like a 1.8 Superb would be a far better choice (as a comparable sized car) than a Commodore or Falcon in terms of fuel costs. The company I work for has a large fleet of either Falcons or Commodores - the fuel bill must be massive. I realise fleet discounts are a big factor but environmentally its a no brainer. Thoughts anyone....?
      2006 VW Golf GTI Silver Mk5 5dr manual no options (the way nature intended) SOLD
      2012 Skoda Octavis RS wagon, race blue, red stitch interior, DSG SOLD
      2008 Skoda Octavia vRS Wagon (Mk II, pre-FL) 2.0 TFSI 147Kw 6 MT bright yellow SOLD
      Other: 2013 Mercedes B250 Sliver Command Pack panoramic roof

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      • #4
        Originally posted by code618 View Post
        Good initial review. I reckon they are a smart choice as a large car.

        Without wishing to infer negative conotations associated with 'Fleet' cars, something like a 1.8 Superb would be a far better choice (as a comparable sized car) than a Commodore or Falcon in terms of fuel costs. The company I work for has a large fleet of either Falcons or Commodores - the fuel bill must be massive. I realise fleet discounts are a big factor but environmentally its a no brainer. Thoughts anyone....?
        The 1.8 Superb would be good-but chances are the diesel would be better environmentally and for fuel costs. I thought the Camry was the fleet buyers car of choice these days?

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        • #5
          I took some time to check out a 2.0 TDI 125 model a few weeks back. Very nice car inside, but I noticed that although there is a lot of legroom in the back, the hip room for 3 adult sized passengers in the back is not nearly as good as an Aussie six. Took the shine off an otherwise very practical car.

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          • #6
            when you do the math you can buy a lot of fuel with the money you save buying a ford or holden especially with the deals you can get these days

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            • #7
              For me, I think the Superb (and forthcoming Superb Estate) would be the ideal family car for Australia. Think about it, the Ambition 1.8TSI is only around $3,000 more than the base Commodore Omega. Imagine all the extra stuff you get for that little amount (7-speed DSG, half the fuel costs, the extra equipment - dual climate, 3 extra airbags, split-folding rear-seats, bigger boot, the Twindoor etc -, Euro quality/finish and abit of a difference to the 'norm'.

              Skoda deserve to sell every one they bring in, the quality cannot be beaten!
              Mine: Silver 2006 Volkswagen Golf Sportline 2.0FSI 6M (with a sunroof)
              Parents': Candy White 2008 Skoda Octavia RS 2.0TFSI 6M Liftback

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              • #8
                Not sure $47,000 (base model superb) seems rather expensive... but then again versus a Passat ($70,000+) seems relatively cheap.

                For around $33,000 you can get a falcadore, drive away. Thats $14,000 difference and I doubt you will save that in fuel costs over 4 years. I wouldn't think it's a threat for the falcon or commodore. And the Octavia isn't the biggest car or exactly the most ideal car for a family with 2/3 kids. Don't get me wrong the Superb seems like a great car, very good looking. But for the pricing I don't think it will be a hit for families, fleets or those looking for a luxury car with a prestigous name.

                I think Skoda really should define who their target audience is? Octavia too small, Superb too expensive and adjust their pricing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zjm View Post
                  when you do the math you can buy a lot of fuel with the money you save buying a ford or holden especially with the deals you can get these days
                  But a falcadore is only a 40,000km ownership proposition. After that the shocks are buggered, the brakes need major work, rattles & squeaks everywhere. My wife has had 15 falcodores in 20 years & each one is starting to show its age after 40,000km.
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                  • #10
                    Ok, that is somewhat true ( not sure about the new models )... but what about the price/pricing, why so high?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jacob_1987 View Post
                      Ok, that is somewhat true ( not sure about the new models )... but what about the price/pricing, why so high?
                      New model hoping to get the cashed-up early adopters?

                      Octavias were overpriced to billy-o when they first came out. Trade-ins were low, no fleet discount. When I first considered Octavia in November '07they were more expensive than the equivalent Golf. 9 months later the trade-in had gone up $4k & they were doing drive-away, no more to pay prices.
                      carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic
                      I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums

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                      • #12
                        yeah, i suppose so... but how much can they rationally come down?
                        I'd prefer really the Octavia to be mid 20's, Superb Mid 30's and up ...

                        I think it'd make sales better also Octavia for small families, old people, fleet

                        Whilst Superb Mid 30's would target Large families, smaller business owners,and fleet.

                        I'm not sure how Skoda price their cars but you are right, they are rather expensive.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jacob_1987 View Post
                          I'm not sure how Skoda price their cars but you are right, they are rather expensive.
                          Since the price was announced back in Feb/March, the Aussie dollar has improved about 10% against the Czech currency. That would suggest it is currently overpriced by close to $5000. Knocking that off the price would make it more attractive.
                          Current: 2009 Skoda Superb Elegance with all options including solar sunroof (selling soon...)
                          Waiting: MY2015 Octavia VRS Wagon, Race Blue, Tech Pack, Black Pack

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                          • #14
                            I reckon they could also have a winner with the Estate (if it looks like this):

                            Although they could've slanted the tailgate a little so it had a more flow on effect
                            2002 Volkswagen Bora V5 - 2007 Mazda 3 GT - 1998 Ford Contour Sport - 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T - 2013 Volkswagen Passat 130TDI - 2015 Ford Escape 1.5 - 2016 Subaru WRX - 2018 Volkswagen Golf R Wolfsburg Wagon

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                            • #15
                              When I heard Skoda was coming to Oz I was keen to have a look at the Octavia RS as in the UK its quite a bit cheaper than equivalent Golf GTI (3500-4000 pounds), in the UK they are a performance bargain, but in OZ there isn't much difference in price, hence people will buy a GTI which is a known brand with a known resale rating. As a second hand car though, the RS will be a great buy. Sorry, off topic!!

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