What Ceramic pads would u recommended? - 2011 vRS

[dArK5HaD0w]

thanks for the info & links brad.
i am however staying away from anything cross-drilled.

turns out the bigger 282mm rotor will not fit under the bosch calipers.

gslrallysport got back to me saying they can provide me with the Fremax Disc Rotor 272mm for the rears. they're similar to the DBA T2 slotted rear rotors.
remsa pads are 1420.00 instead of 1031 for the bosch calipers.

all up (F+R rotors, F+R pads and 2x brake fluids) quote came up to $584. includes free shipping
am very happy with that and locked it in.

[brad]

Can't complain about the price for quality components.

Make sure you have the correct triple-square bit for the rear caliper carrier - or are you just supplying parts to your mechanic?

[dArK5HaD0w]

Make sure you have the correct triple-square bit for the rear caliper carrier - or are you just supplying parts to your mechanic?

hmmm...what does that thing do?
i'm supplying the parts to my mechanic, who will do the fitting/install.

they r well versed with the cars of the VAG family, so hopefully they know about this triple-square bit thingy.

[brad]

It's the stupid Euro version of a torx screw that VW like to use in addition to torx, allen, philips & normal bolts.

If your mech is used to working on VWs he will have the right tool.

[dArK5HaD0w]

can anyone advise if the mk5/6 gti brake lines will also fit the octavia rs?

i'm looking at getting braided brake lines, hence the question.

[brad]

I can't see why not - the calipers, etc are the same.

[dArK5HaD0w]

those r my thoughts too.

the thing that throws me off is that the rs has a bigger brake master cyclinder than what is found in the mk5/6 gti.
shouldn't matter, but......

[brad]

I have a set of MKV GTI calipers sitting at home withh braided lines. I'll try & remember to have a look tonight & compare with my OEM calipers.

The bigger master cylinder shouldn't make any difference - they just vary the bore diameter to change the pedal feel - or it's for the differing sizes in the rear brake pistons which vary between 41mm-51mm (something along those lines).

[Martin]

Yeah, bigger MC bore for larger caliper piston size

I thought all the sport VAG's had the larger MC
The Audi S3, VW R32 and GTI
(not 100% sure about the GTI)

[dArK5HaD0w]

Yeah, bigger MC bore for larger caliper piston size

I thought all the sport VAG's had the larger MC
The Audi S3, VW R32 and GTI
(not 100% sure about the GTI)

the mk5/6 gti definately has a smaller brake cylinder.
The mk6 R and the S3 have the larger one, which the mk2 RS also shares....interestingly.

I don't know what is the case with newer MQB platform, i.e. the mk7 and mk3 models.

[brad]

Yeah, bigger MC bore for larger caliper piston size

I thought all the sport VAG's had the larger MC
The Audi S3, VW R32 and GTI
(not 100% sure about the GTI)

But the Caliper piston on the front is the same diameter / same caliper for both the 288mm & 312mm front rotors.

The rear caliper is about 41mm for the earlier Lucas or Bosch calipers and 38mm for the later calipers.

Given all that, the only reason you'd fit a bigger MC to the RS is to give a shorter pedal.

[DunlopRS]

Sorry to take this back a few months….
As with my near neighbour I am also getting great life out of my brakes – at the 90k service the comment was they were only about 50% worn (diesel & lots of open road work…).
Have been considering ceramic pads also to reduce dust. However my brother in law who spent a lot of time as track mechanic in his youth says they have no performance when cold and take some time to warm up. Is that still a consideration with modern pads??
Thanks

[Johnbu]

I bought RDA discs for my GTI, they seem OK (don't track the car) for daily.

Reason I went for RDA (obviously to save $) is because regardless of how good your discs are, it will need replacing or machining by the time you change your pads anyway.

Plus they are cheap enough not to worry about machining them which will most likely make at or under the legal limit.

Hmm, not when you have to replace them every 10,000km or so.

I'll update this thread in a few years time if I have any issues

As promised Transporter.

Probably 5 years and 80km later, my Remsa pads and RDA rotors are due for replacement.

The pads have approx 3mm left but the discs are fine. No warping, shuddering, major scoring on the discs.

I'm considering ATE ceramic pads and new high carbon rotors only to reduce brake dust. I've also heard because proper ceramic pads are gentle on rotors (but wear out quicker) you can replace the pads without machining the rotors.

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[Transporter]

As promised Transporter.

Probably 5 years and 80km later, my Remsa pads and RDA rotors are due for replacement.

The pads have approx 3mm left but the discs are fine. No warping, shuddering, major scoring on the discs.

I'm considering ATE ceramic pads and new high carbon rotors only to reduce brake dust. I've also heard because proper ceramic pads are gentle on rotors (but wear out quicker) you can replace the pads without machining the rotors.

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The ATE ceramic pads are bit more durable and will last you easily double what you got from your old pads. The ATE ceramic pads plate the discs and you brake with 2 ceramic surfaces.
One Octavia that I've fitted ATE ceramics at70kkm came for 250kkm service last week and the pads still have 5mm remai at front and 4mm at the back.Country long distance driver but he also regularly tows the trailer.

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[Johnbu]

I always thought cermanic wore faster than semi metallic, but is gentler to the discs.

What discs do you use with ceramic pads?

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