Rumoured Golf pricing bad news for Skoda?

[brad]

Lol @ a/c upsell.. I'm guessing this was some time ago.

1987/88.

Everything was an option back then. The cars were expensive too.

[Dutch77]

1987/88.

Everything was an option back then. The cars were expensive too.

Ahh.. I was barely hitting double digits then so was still chauffered around in a cream XF Falcon. With a/c.

[Mysticality]

I wasn't around in 87/88. :/

My next car will probably be an Octavia vRS TDI Wagon.
Because where else can you get an actual diesel sports wagon with a manual gearbox?
13 months old, 58,000km. Can't be too far away...

[MJKooLio]

Pricing doesn't bother me, and don't think there will be an issue if Skoda might be 3-4-5k more than VW equiv. Skoda i think are more of a Niche market. You see older men and some younger in their 30's driving them... well I do (see drivers like those)

I'm uncertain re the drivers on the forum but I'd buy the next vRS if it DOES come with AWD like i've read before. I do hope it will, otherwise i'll get the next Golf R. I want the AWD for the driving, but the issue was that i didn't buy the current Octavia vRS as it's already aging and we now have a replacement. in Dec 2011 I knew there was a new model coming out, as like the Opel Insignia, the model is near it's life cycle and an upgrade of model is immanent! Instead I bought the new shape Polo GTI, it's not dating and a new model is not coming out for a while... except the R but it's the same body.

Skoda = niche market

There will always be buyers!

[rc_vRS]

Pricing doesn't bother me, and don't think there will be an issue if Skoda might be 3-4-5k more than VW equiv. Skoda i think are more of a Niche market. You see older men and some younger in their 30's driving them... well I do (see drivers like those)

I'm uncertain re the drivers on the forum but I'd buy the next vRS if it DOES come with AWD like i've read before. I do hope it will, otherwise i'll get the next Golf R. I want the AWD for the driving, but the issue was that i didn't buy the current Octavia vRS as it's already aging and we now have a replacement. in Dec 2011 I knew there was a new model coming out, as like the Opel Insignia, the model is near it's life cycle and an upgrade of model is immanent! Instead I bought the new shape Polo GTI, it's not dating and a new model is not coming out for a while... except the R but it's the same body.

Skoda = niche market

There will always be buyers!

As above, for me I chose the octavia based on it's spec and wasn't considering a VW because there really is no equivalent (I don't consider the golf wagon as an equivalent to the vRS). It does help that the price vs equipment was better than the golf but with the new model being bigger again and even less comparable to golf I wouldn't mind paying the same or a bit more for it.

For me I didn't care that the octavia model was at the end of life when I bought it, I did the same with the xr5 when it was at the end of model. You can pick up very good deals when a new model is just about to be released or when the old one is in runout, you just have to make sure the deal is good enough to compensate for potentially lower resale when it's time to sell. I'm planning on keeping the octavia in the family when I've finished with it anyway, depending on what the new one turns out like I'll consider it - as long as I don't find the service/support from skoda too painful.

[K1W1]

I'm uncertain re the drivers on the forum but I'd buy the next vRS if it DOES come with AWD like i've read before. I do hope it will, otherwise i'll get the next Golf R. I want the AWD for the driving,

A vRS with AWD would also be very attractive to me as well. As it stands if I replace the vRS with another Skoda it would be a Scout for the AWD but I must say the the Passat AWD wagon has a lot going for it at the moment imo.

[Inego]

I must say the the Passat AWD wagon has a lot going for it at the moment imo.

My sister picked up a V6AWD Passat yesterday, so I'm interested in a closer look. I'm still thinking passat alltrack to replace the Scout, as there's no equivalent Skoda.

[K1W1]

I suspect that the rumoured Scout version of the Superb will for all intents be Skodas equivalent but who knows whether it's anything more than a journalists wish list that he had the graphic artist draw up..

[johnnie5]

The official list price of the 77TSI Golf is $21,990 so they'd need to be lopping $2k off that to hit the mark - so that would either need to be a loss leader or they're looking at shaving dollars off all models. It would seem they might need to as well at the top end given cars like the M-Benz A250 are priced sharply when compared to an optioned GTI etc.

Agreed this could hurt Skoda.

They'd be better off optioning up the cars and leaving price points alone as this has a lesser effect on resale value - which admittedly is shot to pieces in the Golf range as well right now.

As for business v private buyers, it does hurt a little less if the vehicle is business related, but until Juliar ups tax to 100% there is still a real cost to a corporate buyer of 70c in the dollar.

this has nothing to do with skoda

it has to do with market share and selling vehicles

and is commonly known in the industry is to tie people into a brand

Nissan has just released the pulsar for $19990

but mr nissan i can buy a VW for the same price

its the same reason that the Up has come along, getting people into the brand

toyota has always done the same with their cheap models

get someone into a cheap entry model and later as they grow older get married have kids they can then buy the bigger model

[johnnie5]

1987/88.

Everything was an option back then. The cars were expensive too.

its funny i mentioned the nissan pulsar in the prev post and the radio today was saying the pulsar
sold for $19990 from 1996 to 2006

but compared to what you get it a car today its no match on the past

[Inego]

I suspect that the rumoured Scout version of the Superb will for all intents be Skodas equivalent but who knows whether it's anything more than a journalists wish list that he had the graphic artist draw up..

Yes, if and when, given the various versions in spyshots over the last couple of years. But I'm thinking new car this year, so alltrack it looks like.

[K1W1]

this has nothing to do with skoda

It has everything to do with Skoda. Pricing the Golf at that level takes Skoda out of the alternate product equation based on Skodas current pricing levels. That was the whole point of the thread in the first pace. Skoda are with going to have to revisit their pricing strategy or go the added value route to stay competitive, just like Mazda and Nissan and Toyota and everybody else.

[Dutch77]

It has everything to do with Skoda. Pricing the Golf at that level takes Skoda out of the alternate product equation based on Skodas current pricing levels. That was the whole point of the thread in the first pace. Skoda are with going to have to revisit their pricing strategy or go the added value route to stay competitive, just like Mazda and Nissan and Toyota and everybody else.

Agreed, this is what I was trying to get at. Not that it would happen, but it would be like Audi shaving their prices and encroaching on VW product (although this would involve quite a bit more of a cut than what is possibly happening with VW/Skoda).

As a Skoda fan I'm happy to hear plenty of people are keen on sticking with the brand all the same.

[Jake02]

Very rarely do I see a Golf 77TSI in Sydney - although a few days in Melbourne I saw many of them - the most I see are GTIs and Rs. In terms of this thread I realise that it's largely irrelevant but has anyone read apparently how much power this new base Golf has?

63kW.

What I get from this that VW Aus really doesn't seem to give a s**t about Skoda Australia (yet again). Why bother bringing it here then?

r

[johnnie5]

What I get from this that VW Aus really doesn't seem to give a s**t about Skoda Australia (yet again). Why bother bringing it here then?

r

market share is what its all about

if they have the product available , can support it and make money out of it the they will sell it

if they arent making money out of it then they wouldnt sell it

but you do still make a valid point and maybe they will either cut the price to compete on the smaller price vehicles to get people into the skoda/vw/audi models or would they just drop the brand ?