118TSI MY12 stalling

[Dal]

Had a bit a worrying moment the other day in my 2 month old MY12 Octavia 118TSI auto wagon. I was decelerating at a round-a-bout and saw the red battery indicator come on and it had stalled! Put it in park, tried to restart, nothing. Tried again and it restarted. It happened again a couple of minutes later in the same sort of scenario.

I now watch the tacho a bit more and have noticed the revs dip occasionally to ~400-500 then bounce back up when decelerating to a stop. It appears like it stalls but then restarts as there is still forward motion prior to stopping. This rev-dipping doesn't happen every time during deceleration.

Obviously not too impressed as it is a new car. Found a similar thread here....

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/golf-vi-90tsi-dsg-stalling-41422.html

which describes a similar issue. I have done around 700Kms and a long run from Sydney to Newcastle so would expect the gearbox has settled in.

I will contact the dealer shortly in the hope an ECU tweak will fix it.

I thought I would add a post here in case any other Octavia owners experience this issue.

[Antiplastix]

Have you checked your battery terminals ?? Are they claen and tight, wouldn t be the first time a cars been delivered without the battery installed properly.

[Dal]

I have just checked the battery terminals, all OK.

[woofy]

Sounds like the car is stalling itself, something might be up with the DSG.

[Dutch]

I've experienced the same stalling Dal. My RS 2010 TSi wagon has stalled aabout 6 times now mainly in D and twice driving thrive Chinatown and once leading onto the harbour bridge friday night peak hour rolling at about 15kms per hour and this one pissed me off.

Its last stalled reversing into my garage a few months back and the cars done about 30k, I rang Skoda support and the car was picked up on a table top truck and taken to my local dealer to analyse the faults. The car has stalled since I originally got it and was told that I need to do a few thousand kilometres on the car so that the DSG could adjust to my driving style.

It probably tries to stall at least once a month, its like the anti stall kicks in and it happens when I'm slowing down and the DSG is going down gears and its between 2 and neutral in the DSG as your coming to a stop. It sucks because i'm rolling and i have to stop the car with no power assist and restart it again which is never a problem.

Skoda want it to stall again and put it on a truck again so they can replicate the faults, I'm no longer happy with this outcome and I have my local Skoda dealer dealing with Skoda Australia. I feel that I shouldn't have to unload my family from the car when it stalls next wherever that may be so that Skoda can down loan the faults. I have our first bub arriving in 4 weeks and this will not happen. I've drawn a line in the sand now and what the issue dealt with. Apart from the this the DSG performs fine normally and I think its an awesome car for the $.

I think this fault is rare and I personally think it has something to do with the clutches, I would recommend when it stalls next to not start the car as this could reset the faults picked up when it does stall and get it to your dealer to download the faults and report it to Skoda, speak to the dealer first of course but this is my experience Dal, great cars but.

[gldgti]

If any of you guys can visit me in mt kuring-gai or on the central coast I'll scan your car for fault codes using vcds. If theres an error it will show up regardless of whether the problem goes away. I dont know about the dealer software but VCDS will show it.

to me it sounds like a sensor or mechatronics issue - being that when decellerating above 1100rpm the ecu cuts fuel to 0 to save fuel, then the fuel flow should restart below 1100 to allow the engine to keep running - OR - the dsg is not decoupling as the car stops causing the stall - or both.

I would expect some error code to be evident.

pm me if your interested.

[Dal]

Thanks for your reply Dutch, its nice to know I am not alone. I have the same opinion, nice car, good value but I simply can't have this issue. My stalling experience happened on a hot day with my wife and 6 week old in the car. I was worried that I may be stuck on the curbside sweating with a screaming baby, not what you need when we are sleep deprived. As it is a stalling issue I am not so worried about being stranded, however there is still plenty of potential for accidents if this happens in the wrong place.

Have Skoda mentioned anything about an ECU update?

BTW my bro has a 2010 vRS wagon (the reason why I looked at Skoda) and hasn't had this issue. I was with him when he took it in for its first service and his only issues were poor lumbar support adjustability (not a fault, just would have liked a bit more), the auto wipers were not quite dependable (again not a fault it is just the way the are), and a faulty gear paddle.

Thanks for the offer gldgti, but I am in Sydney. I'll be taking it back to Trivetts new Skoda service centre in North Paramatta. I hope they have the appropriate equipment to look at it.

[gldgti]

BTW - you guys are far from alone, this is a pretty common phenomena with DSG cars - if you do a forum search you'll find plenty of others complaining of it.

Perhaps your skoda dealer may not know of it but a VW one certainly will.

[dodgey]

Mine MY11 RS TSI has stalled twice this year. Seems like when I'm coasting to a stop, that's when it happens. It's like the car is too slow to react to put the clutch in. I took it in to North Shore Skoda (because they were close and I could get a courtesy car) them to diagnose, but it didn't drop any engine or transmission error codes, so they wont do anything about it. I also asked if there were any ECU updates, or DSG mechatronic updates and even the wastegate rattle update, but they have not heard anything, (so don't bother to try for the wastegate update there for now)

Far as they were concern, according to their internal research, it's not an issue here or with any Skodas overseas. (I did mention that outside of Skoda support, there's quite a few complaints about it, although that said, it didn't happen to my GTI)

Stupidly, I just got my cable back after I put the car in so I could not get a reading via VCDS beforehand, but will be checking it next time.

It also looks like North Shore Skoda is going to go through some changes too. Not too sure if it is a good or bad change.

While I was there, they had a pre facelift RS parked next to mine, so I took a quick photo.

[Dal]

I took the car to the garage and an ECU update was performed. Hope that puts this issue to bed.

[dodgey]

Hopefully it doesn't need a DSG Mechatronic update too... Good luck!