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    Bluefin hand controller Monday after placing the order last Thursday, JKM were very pleasant to deal with. Paid via Paypal they provided DHL tracking number.

    If the unit itself is a nice piece of very well made kit, nice soft touch buttons, rubber surround and generally nice to look at. Shame it gets used then stored away till next time out of sight. Will report back when I get the car and install it.
    A couple of questions that someone might be able to help with
    1- My wrx was dynoed 164kw at the wheels (4). The 2.0 fsi is quoted 147kw. Is that at the flywheel?
    Bluefin remap adds approx 30kw. Is that at the engine?
    I am just trying to compare cars.

    2-If the dealer fills up the petrol tank with 95ron, I drive the car home, download the stock map, send it off to the Superchips, will it change the program they write for the engine to suit the lower 95 ron fuel?
    I will email Superchips to find out.
    -Gt
    2010 Vrs Tsi DSG Estate Anthracite Zenons Foglights Sunroof Front Parking Sensors Leather Tint Bluefin Love it!
    2005 Golf 2.0fsi Sportline

  • #2
    147kw is at the flywheel... Its probably about 110kw at the wheels I would imagine.
    Heath Eustace... Sales Manager - Bayford Skoda Preston, Vic

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Graybags View Post
      Bluefin hand controller Monday after placing the order last Thursday, JKM were very pleasant to deal with. Paid via Paypal they provided DHL tracking number.

      If the unit itself is a nice piece of very well made kit, nice soft touch buttons, rubber surround and generally nice to look at. Shame it gets used then stored away till next time out of sight. Will report back when I get the car and install it.
      A couple of questions that someone might be able to help with
      1- My wrx was dynoed 164kw at the wheels (4). The 2.0 fsi is quoted 147kw. Is that at the flywheel?
      Bluefin remap adds approx 30kw. Is that at the engine?
      I am just trying to compare cars.

      2-If the dealer fills up the petrol tank with 95ron, I drive the car home, download the stock map, send it off to the Superchips, will it change the program they write for the engine to suit the lower 95 ron fuel?
      I will email Superchips to find out.
      -Gt
      They would be interested in what fuel you intend to use on a regular basis for sure. What they send you back though, would cope with 95 if you couldn't find 98.

      If you thought you were going to be without 98 for any length of time, it's probably sensible flashing it back to std.

      Gavin
      optimumcode@gmail.com | https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/for...i-;-79012.html | https://www.facebook.com/TTY-Euro-107982291992533

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      • #4
        Just to clarify, is it the facelift RS saying it needs 95, I thought I was going mental and checked inside the fuel door, and it clearly says 98 (with 95 in brackets if you have to). Not sure where the 95 min keeps springing from.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the help, is the ecu what you might call the "learning" type as in it will make adjustments to suit fuel and not just pull back timing when it knocks?
          I think I will ask the dealer to fill with Ultimate 98 and stick to that. Can anyone see reason why ecu can't be reflashed straight away? ie without running in?
          thanks Gt
          2010 Vrs Tsi DSG Estate Anthracite Zenons Foglights Sunroof Front Parking Sensors Leather Tint Bluefin Love it!
          2005 Golf 2.0fsi Sportline

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          • #6
            Flash away, just give it chance to warm up first and drive it normally. No dribbling up the highway for 500ks with the cruise set.

            Hills would be good for it, with a bit of load on.

            Gavin
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            • #7
              In my experience with the Bluefin, Superchips seems to want to know what fuel you'll be using...and 98 is probably the recommended way to go.

              Having said that, my experience wasn't good; I never seemed to get "the right map" for the S3 2TFSI downloaded from them despite going to and fro several times, and so I ended up sending the Bluefin back and getting a refund. They had no problem with that, but it took a while.

              Personally, I'd wait. How will you enjoy what you get if you never know what you had?
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              • #8
                Got a reply back from Superchips-
                "Yes this is the engine. Yes around 30kw. The ECU will adjust for the grade of fuel you use whether original or with superchip."
                2010 Vrs Tsi DSG Estate Anthracite Zenons Foglights Sunroof Front Parking Sensors Leather Tint Bluefin Love it!
                2005 Golf 2.0fsi Sportline

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bayford Skoda View Post
                  147kw is at the flywheel... Its probably about 110kw at the wheels I would imagine.
                  its around 120-130 kw at the front wheels. last time at the dyno the tdi gt sport gold clocked 113kw at the front wheels stock - a loss of only 12 kw!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yevvy View Post
                    its around 120-130 kw at the front wheels. last time at the dyno the tdi gt sport gold clocked 113kw at the front wheels stock - a loss of only 12 kw!
                    Thanks for that, doesn't look that bad now and with an extra 30kw its somewhere close to the rex
                    2010 Vrs Tsi DSG Estate Anthracite Zenons Foglights Sunroof Front Parking Sensors Leather Tint Bluefin Love it!
                    2005 Golf 2.0fsi Sportline

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Graybags View Post
                      A couple of questions that someone might be able to help with
                      1- The 2.0 fsi is quoted 147kw. Is that at the flywheel?
                      Bluefin remap adds approx 30kw. Is that at the engine?


                      2-If the dealer fills up the petrol tank with 95ron, I drive the car home, download the stock map, send it off to the Superchips, will it change the program they write for the engine to suit the lower 95 ron fuel?
                      I will email Superchips to find out.
                      -Gt
                      1)147kW at the fly. The 30kw extra will be at the fly too - so expect about 20kw-23kw extra at the wheels. I wouldn't sweat about the numbers. It's all in the drive.

                      2) The stage 1 map is quite generic & Superchips won't do a specific map for your car - that's why it is cheaper. It's written for 99ron IIRC but your knock sensors will wind back some timing & boost & add a bit more fuel to compensate if it detects detonation.

                      The unit I did the other day, the car had ~97ron with 2.5% ethanol in it. We went out & did some timed acceleration runs immediately after instal & had 2 big detonation moments (way beyond any pre-ignition I've experienced before). Then it settled down & was all good.

                      I'd recomend you do the instal & then "drive normally" to allow the ECU to relearn your driving style. Don't worry about what fuel is in there at the moment but use 98ron in the future.

                      Also, don't use the programme off the CD, the IP for the server is wrong. Download the latest version from the Bluefin website.

                      Read this & if you want to know any more, just ask
                      carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic
                      I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Brad. Software downloaded and ready to go.
                        I think Ill take it relatively easy for a few K's first
                        2010 Vrs Tsi DSG Estate Anthracite Zenons Foglights Sunroof Front Parking Sensors Leather Tint Bluefin Love it!
                        2005 Golf 2.0fsi Sportline

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                        • #13
                          Hi, curious to here how its all gone with the install ? any pinging or strange behaviour ? Are you running 98 in it or 95 ?

                          Any first impressions ?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by aussiers View Post
                            Hi, curious to here how its all gone with the install ? any pinging or strange behaviour ? Are you running 98 in it or 95 ?

                            Any first impressions ?
                            As it's a 2.0, it will be 98ron. Crazy to run anything else despite what the book says.

                            This petrol thing has me amused. I do 25,000km a year - use 1750L on 98ron a year which costs $2200. That's a premium of $270 over ULP92, probably $100 over 95ron.
                            My depreciation costs every year are 30 times that.

                            My swmbo has gone xmas shopping today - she'll spend a thousand without even batting an eyelid. $100 for better fuel is a no brainer.

                            re the John West Tuna: I'm getting a funny "hesitation". I thought it might be fuel but realise now it's the front tyres doing micro-slips when cold.

                            Loving the torque.
                            carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic
                            I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums

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                            • #15
                              agreed on the 98. Curious thats all. I find it funnny that they even sell "Standard" or whatever it is called in this country.

                              There are thousands and thousands of European and Japanese cars out there that all ping their heads off with Mr and Mrs entirely not interested in cars or mechanical sympathy, complety ignorant of what that funny noise is and the damage that can be done. Then they wonder why a head gasket etc caused probs down the track.

                              Back to topic - good to here that the cars pulling well. Will be interested to hear what longer term impressions are.

                              Thanks for the update.
                              Last edited by aussiers; 22-11-2009, 07:13 AM.

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