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  • #16
    Originally posted by brad View Post
    While there is a preferred direction of rotation, sometimes slotted discs work better when fitted the wrong way eg: you want the slots to force the pads outwards rather than inwards.

    I've done this a couple of times when the customer started getting a clonk on brake application because the caliper frames weren't as tight as the should be.

    I don't believe that reversing the direction of rotation has a noticeable effect on braking performance or the wiping/degassing effect of the slots.
    The photo could be "mirrored" too. That's quite common on the wonderful interweb......
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    • #17
      Nah, R20 beater

      Originally posted by code618 View Post
      Isn't that called a R36? (ok not quite $60k but not too far above)
      I was thinking more a competitor for the R20, the RS i think has been marketed at the GTi audience that want a more versatile vehicle. It would only make sense then to tap into that R20 audience but given the better than expected success of the R36 wagon i would think the VW contingency would put the brakes on this.

      I would spend $60k on this and would never consider an R20 if i had the option and i think so would a hell of a lot of people. It would make t hard for the R20 but it would launch this product in massive way. (personal opinion of course)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by brad View Post
        While there is a preferred direction of rotation, sometimes slotted discs work better when fitted the wrong way eg: you want the slots to force the pads outwards rather than inwards.

        I've done this a couple of times when the customer started getting a clonk on brake application because the caliper frames weren't as tight as the should be.

        I don't believe that reversing the direction of rotation has a noticeable effect on braking performance or the wiping/degassing effect of the slots.
        One major problem Brad, the internal vanes (inside the disc rotor) are directional and designed to draw cool air from under the car & vent it out through the centre of the disc. Mounting them backwards (on Alcons) has seen an increase in temps of about 200 degrees (not good for braking) as no cooling air can be drawn in as the manufacturer designed. The "moon's" in the discs surface are more for "cleaning" than "bite"
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
          One major problem Brad, the internal vanes (inside the disc rotor) are directional and designed to draw cool air from under the car & vent it out through the centre of the disc. Mounting them backwards (on Alcons) has seen an increase in temps of about 200 degrees (not good for braking) as no cooling air can be drawn in as the manufacturer designed. The "moon's" in the discs surface are more for "cleaning" than "bite"
          Wasn't aware of the internal direction issues with Alcons having never used them - thanks.

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          • #20
            Cool!

            Here is a pic of a cutaway:

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            • #21
              The RS-P test driven by Carsales:


              Skoda Octavia RS-P
              words - Feann Torr
              You won't find the Octavia RS-P in any Skoda brochure... Yet!


              Skoda Octavia RS-P

              First Drive
              Melbourne, Australia

              What we liked
              >> Massive stopping power
              >> Tarmac-tuned chassis
              >> Improved power output

              Not so much
              >> Bone-jarring ride quality
              >> Dodgy decals with iffy font
              >> Tendency to spin front wheels

              Overall rating: 4.0/5.0
              Engine/Drivetrain/Chassis: 4.0/5.0
              Price, Packaging and Practicality: N/A
              Safety: 3.5/5.0
              Behind the wheel: 4.5/5.0
              X-factor: 5.0/5.0

              As Skoda continues to grow the brand in Australia, it has put together a special high performance turbo 'calling card', the Octavia RS-P.

              Fitted with a fully adjustable suspension rig (tuned up to 'painfully rigid'), a bulky strut brace in the rear, a large matching bar under the hood, carbon-fibre cold air intake system and showing off a clean pair of heels with hot-spec Yokohama tyres and horse-shoe vented brake rotors, this turbocharged Skoda has been built with more than a nod to tarmac rallying. Oh, and it's a wagon.

              When we first saw the Skoda Octavia RS-P in August 2009, we weren't allowed to drive it. But more recently the Carsales Network team was lucky enough to nab the keys for an extended period with the car... To put the pedal to the metal -- or carpet, as the case may be.

              One of the first things you notice about the Octavia RS-P when turning over the engine for the first time is the sound -- it's much louder than standard thanks to a free-flowing exhaust three-inch end can. Pulling away it's the ride -- or lack there of that grabs your attention. Though featuring adjustable K&W suspension, it's set-up racecar hard.

              Point it at a decent piece of winding tarmac though and any practical impediments are forgotten -- at least for a while. Though this wagon has a harsh ride and a barely usable boot, it goes, stops and corners with a degree of control that will make Golf GTI drivers jealous.

              On a smooth ribbon of winding black-top, the RS-P is in fact surprisingly quick, with excellent grip from the 225/50 R18 Yokohama AO48 tyres (once warm) and gob-smacking deceleration from the four-pot AP racing calipers matched to 345mm front rotors.

              There's virtually no rolling or pitching of the car's body as it navigates corners and shifts weight to the front of the vehicle under heavy brakes. The tyres also go a long way to making this wagon a serious tarmac attacker. Say that three times...

              Power output has risen from the standard 147kW thanks to the adoption of a carbon fibre airbox and three-inch exhaust delivering around 155kW. Frankly the output feels substantially more. We hear suggestions that Skoda's workshop boys may have accidentally dropped an alternative engine map into the turbo 2.0-litre's ECU. If that's the case, the figure's probably closer to 200kW.

              Whatever the real number, it's velocity off the line is hampered by the standard front differential and the normally calibrated stability control. Once moving it's easier to get more oomph to the road and the in-gear performance will shame many so-called 'faster' cars.

              The standard twin-clutch DSG makes it easy to flick through the gears and we love the fruity 'woomph' that echoes through the car at each change.

              Beyond performance, with its lowered ride height, blacked out glass and dark grey alloys, the Czech wagon has the kind of looks that gets people talking. While at the local supermarket picking up some supplies, one bloke stated "Haven't seen one of those for a while..." Another comment was simply: "What's a Skoda?"

              To that end, this vehicle is doing exactly what it was designed for: to get attention and promote the Skoda badge. If you can look past its white and green livery, the Octavia RS-P has the potential to be a very serious road car with a bite to match its bark.

              Don't be surprised, then, if Skoda takes the decision to move the RS-P project up to the next level.

              Yep... That's a hint...

              For the time being though, the RS-P not yet been given the green light for production. Matthew Wiesner, the Head of Skoda Australia, told the Carsales Network that many of the components and upgrades developed for this go-fast Euro wagon could be made available as options. We're sure there are Octavia RS drivers out there keen to capitalise on the standard car's unique combination of hot hatch chassis (it's a Golf GTI under the skin) and practical wagon dimensions.

              So is the RS-P evidence of Skoda's very own local skunk works in the making? Stranger things have happened...

              There's room for another HSV surely? That's "Hotter Skoda Vehicles".

              Published : Thursday, 1 April 2010

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              • #22
                Considering how early Skoda let the cat out of the bag on this meant that it was going to have a future.

                I wonder how much of a Hint Carpoint/Carsales where actually given, and will this be an Aussie only model?

                Could be cool to have a Hot Octavia with factory warranty. But yes, i think the AWD/DSG combo like the one in a R36 would make it sweet as, just cant see it happening.

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                • #23
                  Toyota, Mazda, Nissan (in the past), Ford and Holden all have "hotted up" Australian spec and modified versions of their cars why not Skoda?
                  I guess it would be one way of pulling the R36 crowd away from VW at least into Skoda showrooms as well as appealing to the WRX and Evo groups.
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                  • #24
                    Yeah the R36 is end of life soon anyway.. and VW hasn't said its going to replace it.. who knows.. they might hand the hot wagon flag to Skoda

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                    • #25
                      I just don't see myself buying any of the options on the RS-P (maybe the wheels, but I like the standard ones to be honest ). Ride = too harsh. Strut braces = too intrusive (on the eyes too)... Big exhaust = too drony... etc etc...

                      An extra 30-40kw backed by the factory. That'd be a different story

                      I get the feeling that if they do release anything, it won't be anywhere near as wild and impractical as this. More likely another 20Kw, bigger unique wheels, slightly lower/firmer suspension and standard kit that is usually an option (which would still be great). And then give us the opportunity to install the parts with a warranty. (even better)

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                      • #26
                        I was just talking today with my brother in law about how Subaru seem to still be the only people who offer their STi bits as options on most of the range and with full warranty. Mazda and Ford at least should be doing it with the huge parts bin they have. VW/Audi/Skoda could too.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by woofy View Post
                          I was just talking today with my brother in law about how Subaru seem to still be the only people who offer their STi bits as options on most of the range and with full warranty. Mazda and Ford at least should be doing it with the huge parts bin they have. VW/Audi/Skoda could too.
                          On the surface, it seems like a good business decision. They know how much power they can push through the drivetrain of each model and they can also control the state of the car when having the upgrades fitted. It seems to me that its an extra source of untapped revenue for the manufacturer and dealers. *shrug*

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                          • #28
                            Makes sense why carsales drove this car a few weeks back now.


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                            • #29
                              SKODA Car Reviews - Latest SKODA Advice, News & Reviews - carsales.com.au <- there is actually a series of 7 or so articles on carsales following the teamup of carsales with skoda for the targa challenge

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