So what happened ?

[Antiplastix]

After all the Hoo Haa about the launch of the Kodiaq, instead of going off with a big bang, its been more of a fizzle. I was expecting big things after reading the reviews and was expecting more excitement !
I went and had a look and really liked it, but they don't seem to be selling. (even with Skoda Aus. drip feeding them) . Maybe everyone else is like me, I ll wait for the unconfirmed/unlikely vRS version or at least one with enough power/torque to lug around all those kilos.

[tigger73]

Yes I think the limited (one) engine option is not helping things and although the launch pack is a good deal it means if you want diesel, leather or one of the option packs you have to wait.

I think also the smaller engine options may hurt the Kodiaq as it's competing in a segment with cars that have larger engines with more power.

[space-godzilla]

I am considering a Kodiak and am looking for a little advice. I think that it ticks most of the boxes for me even though there are some trade-offs. The ones on carsales run from about $46 (basic) to $56 (everything) drive away. So if they're not selling particularly quickly, do you think that there is any/much room to negotiate on those prices? It would be good to know what people are paying in the real world before I start talking seriously with the salesman. PM me if you don't want to post any information publicly.

We had one of the early Octavia RS's (with the Ford Falcon headlights) so I am not worried about being an early adopter - or re-sale value after the warranty expires.

[tigger73]

I would suggest that somewhere between 5-10% may be possible.

General rule of thumb is that if you can get it out the door for close to the RRP of the vehicle then you've done well.

RRP for the base is $42,990 which is 6.5%. If you don't get any joy with the dealers direct then look to go through a broker.

Towards the end of the month they'll be a bit keener - particularly if they're trying to meet their budget.

[Antiplastix]

Skoda usually starts there 1% finance offers late in the year to try and clear that years stock.

[sclyde2]

I went and had a look and really liked it, but they don't seem to be selling. (even with Skoda Aus. drip feeding them)

What makes you think they aren't selling? I was under the impression that demand was such that you'd be lucky to find one in your chosen spec without having to wait a fair amount of time for it to arrive. Are you finding it easy to find one?

[Antiplastix]

I ve seen them sitting in dealers yards, but yet to see one on the road. Seems to be a common Skoda sales pitch, "get in quick before they all go". I suppose its better to have too few cars, than too many and have to discount.

[sclyde2]

I ve seen them sitting in dealers yards, but yet to see one on the road. Seems to be a common Skoda sales pitch, "get in quick before they all go". I suppose its better to have too few cars, than too many and have to discount.

The dealer near me, last time i went there had about 3. one was a demo, the other 2 had 'sold' signs on them. someone bought an in-stock one on launch day, and left it there for nearly a month before picking it up. just because you see a couple at a dealers, doesn't mean they are having any trouble selling them. go in ask if you can have one in colour X with spec Y and see if they can find one that isn't already spoken for...

Even if every Kodiaq in oz was sold and on the road, you still are very unlikely to see one driving around. In another forum someone said that only about 100 came in on the second shipment (start of this month). The first shipment being the launch / promo / test / demo vehicles - dunno how many of those they brought in.

as for having too few cars being a good thing, i reckon they have gone way too far. so much so, that it is probably bad for their brand. i am starting to see the ads on tv. what use are those ads if they haven't got the product to sell, without several months' wait?

[space-godzilla]

Does anyone have an idea when the diesels are supposed to arrive? At the launch, I think the the articles said 'later in the year' and we are almost into August now.

[tigger73]

Does anyone have an idea when the diesels are supposed to arrive? At the launch, I think the the articles said 'later in the year' and we are almost into August now.

The diesel isn't even certified yet which means it's still probably 2-3 months away minimum. My guess is you'll see them here in November/December. But that's just a guess because it's been mentioned in various articles that it's late 2017.

I'd be interested in seeing the actual sales figures but these are almost always skewed by dealers registering demos.

[woofy]

Pretty sure someone has posted sales figures recently, or maybe it was a facebook group. Either way Skoda sales were up 200% driven by the Superb and the Kodiaq, so not sure why you think they aren't selling. There is a wait for anyone wanting one, and I've seen them on the road. Everytime I walk past the closest dealer there are people crawling all over them so if anything it will be lack of stock that would hurt a sale. Lots of Audi Q3 owners and VW owners when I talked to people looking at them as its a much cheaper prospect than the Q7.

[Vexed]

I have seen two or three already in the north shore area... the car looks nice on the road.

[tigger73]

So what happened ?

Well according to Vfacts there were 594 Skodas sold in June and of these 123 were Superb and 139 Kodiaq.

Compare that to:

Medium SUV
Hyundai Tucson – 3741
Mazda CX-5 – 2487
Toyota RAV4 – 2460

Large SUV
Toyota Prado – 1971
Toyota Kluger – 1464
Subaru Outback – 1180

It will be interesting to see what happens in coming months but likely if there's limited supply this may be the major constraint.

[Antiplastix]

Lots of Audi Q3 owners and VW owners when I talked to people looking at them as its a much cheaper prospect than the Q7.

The one I looked at was more Q5 size than Q7 , I thought.

[woofy]

Sorry yes Q5 was what others were comparing too. They only got the very first and limited stock in June, so that would likely be everything they had that sold. My memory is that the were only getting 700 total for the whole year and we got extra stock bumped here earlier than planned due to advance interest. Supply is the biggest issue here, Skoda just never have enough stock.