electrical gremlins

[william]

hey guys had my mate come over i had the cars battery change all night then checked the volts coming from the battery when first tested they were **** so we thought the alternator was finished things were gloomy when $$$ comes into it then the car absolutely died. when he left he said to charge it up and check the current draw from the alternator terminal it was 14volts i was happy i didnt have to change the alternator so the terminal was the problem yay for $15 fix so im headin to battery world

[Cupra]

Hope it's as simple a fix as mine was

good luck with it

Phil

[h100vw]

hey guys had my mate come over i had the cars battery change all night then checked the volts coming from the battery when first tested they were **** so we thought the alternator was finished things were gloomy when $$$ comes into it then the car absolutely died. when he left he said to charge it up and check the current draw from the alternator terminal it was 14volts i was happy i didnt have to change the alternator so the terminal was the problem yay for $15 fix so im headin to battery world

Hey William, just want to clear something up.

You would measure Volts across the battery terminals or between the negative terminal and somewhere else.

Current is measured in Amps which flows through a wire and must be measured in line. The alternator output cable would need to be disconnected and the Ammeter inserted between the stud on the alternator and the disconnected cable. I would be wary of doing this however as you would need to have a monster ammeter. The kind you see in general use would handle 10A tops.

You can get clamp ammeters which as the name suggests, clamp around the wire under test. They use electromagnetism to work out the current flow.

So from what you have said the alternator terminal had 14 volts on it which is good with the engine running.

Not sure what your comment about the battery voltage was about mate.
After being on charge over night, you didn't get 12 volts or more across the battery?

I think I'd start with the cheap fixes first, like you are doing.

Sincerely hope it was a crappy terminal preventing the alternator charging t he battery.

Gavin

[william]

made a day off it

went to battery world in ryde got two leads one short and one long and two bigger heavy duty terminals cost me $66 all up. after running a few errands and visiting mat aka golfloon i got home at 5 started then and finished now i pulled the whole front clip off and started cleaning up the wiring fitted all the leads and she is still on charge hopefully its fixed thanks for your help gav and phil

[Cupra]

went to battery world in ryde got two leads one short and one long and two bigger heavy duty terminals cost me $66 all up. after running a few errands and visiting mat aka golfloon i got home at 5 started then and finished now i pulled the whole front clip off and started cleaning up the wiring fitted all the leads and she is still on charge hopefully its fixed thanks for your help gav and phil

Progress report time William!!

[william]

ok guys so got down and dirty with it again today. Put in a new battery tryed to start it no go so charged it for four hours still no go. Tryed rocking it whilst in gear no go. tryed clutching it no go pulled out the second hand starter 6 months old tested in gone so im flat out trying to get a starter any ideas suggestions

good news after a ringing chas gibbs at botany he recons he can recondition for 250 so we will have to see but still really bummed

[gpk_gti]

try putting the positive and negative cables directly into the fuel tank and turn the ignition on.

[william]

il probly get the money back that way ive thought about it many a time after 5k or more in which ive thrown at it most expensive seat ever with the exception of daves.

[Corderoy]

il probly get the money back that way ive thought about it many a time after 5k or more in which ive thrown at it most expensive seat ever with the exception of daves.

Hang on... I've only just started with a Seat.

I'm sure I'll look very competitive in a month or so

[Cupra]

ok guys so got down and dirty with it again today. Put in a new battery tryed to start it no go so charged it for four hours still no go. Tryed rocking it whilst in gear no go. tryed clutching it no go pulled out the second hand starter 6 months old tested in gone so im flat out trying to get a starter any ideas suggestions

Hi William,

1: just confirm that when you put the new battery in there was no electrical pwr on the car?

2: Then when you tried to clutch start it it wouldn't fire either? (Mine would clutch start with a completly flat battery when I had my electrical problems)

if so, it sounds like you have multiple problems with the car.

I think we need more info here to help (well I know I need more info )

Phil

[Golf Loon]

Yeah it should start with no starter if you clutch it.
Is the battery charged properly?
If there is no power to the ecu, you cant clutch it.
How did you test the starter??

[william]

Yeah it should start with no starter if you clutch it.
Is the battery charged properly?
If there is no power to the ecu, you cant clutch it.
How did you test the starter??

i got the battery removed the old battery fitted the new one put it on charge for four hours,then tried to start it doesnt even crank you hear the soleriod come out but thats it no spin. so i rocked the car whilst in gear to free up the gear nothing, then tried clutching it nothing but there was power to the ecu its just getting drawn through the dodgie starter i removed the starter bench tested in with a booster pack sparked and spun alittle then nothing so its gone.

[Cupra]

i got the battery removed the old battery fitted the new one put it on charge for four hours,then tried to start it doesnt even crank you hear the soleriod come out but thats it no spin. so i rocked the car whilst in gear to free up the gear nothing, then tried clutching it nothing but there was power to the ecu its just getting drawn through the dodgie starter i removed the starter bench tested in with a booster pack sparked and spun alittle then nothing so its gone.

Ok then, I still don't understand why it wouldn't clutch start, I could push mine on my own in a level carpark & clutch it with a completely flat battery.

You need to get this sorted, no excuses for not making the nats

Phil

[william]

Ok then, I still don't understand why it wouldn't clutch start, I could push mine on my own in a level carpark & clutch it with a completely flat battery.

You need to get this sorted, no excuses for not making the nats

Phil

i took the starter to chas gibbs auto electricians to get rebuilt this morning il be at the nats even if it gets towed there.

[Cupra]

il be at the nats even if it gets towed there.

That's the spirit