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  • #16
    I for one fail to see the point in keyless start, aka start buttons. There is only one decent one in the market and that is Aston Martin's offerring which requires the key to be inserted into the beautiful crystal button to start the car as you depress it. How is a start button any better than a key? I just find it a tacky add-on that belongs in rice rockets, bogan chariots (Aka FPV) and I think that scourge of a motorsport that is like watching food in a microwave has a lot to answer for because of it. "Oh no, my fat, fried-chicken coated fingers can't grip the key to my f150 to turn it on so I can go enjoy the lie of my cousins...."
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    • #17
      Originally posted by gavs View Post
      I for one fail to see the point in keyless start, aka start buttons. There is only one decent one in the market and that is Aston Martin's offerring which requires the key to be inserted into the beautiful crystal button to start the car as you depress it. How is a start button any better than a key? I just find it a tacky add-on that belongs in rice rockets, bogan chariots (Aka FPV) and I think that scourge of a motorsport that is like watching food in a microwave has a lot to answer for because of it. "Oh no, my fat, fried-chicken coated fingers can't grip the key to my f150 to turn it on so I can go enjoy the lie of my cousins...."
      How is it better?? because.... there is no logic at all with it. Except it's something most people dont have therefore it makes it desireable
      If all cars had keyless start and someone came along with the new idea of "the key" then that would be fashionable - lol

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      • #18
        Originally posted by way View Post
        Oh no, the Renault Clio RS isn't really a car for the city if speed is what you are after. On mountain roads though, I just love it. The lack of torque makes it a frustrating car to drive if you are used to turbo or fast cars.
        True

        But the trouble with that logic is that the old Clio RS (2001-2007-ish) had a plush ride for a small hot hatch. As did the Peugeot 306GTI6 (which i owned) /S16 or the Renault CLio Williams.

        For some bizzaar reason all CLio RS200 for Australia are specced the even stiffer Cup Suspension. Makes the car totally unliveable.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Corey_R View Post
          It's already an option on the lower model A1's. Whilst Audi haven't published a specs document on their site for the A1 Sport yet (that I can find), I'd guess it'd at least be an option too. As would be things like 14 speaker Bose stereos, a host of leather colours and styles, and all the other luxuries that you'd expect from Audi...
          Including depreciation! Stand up and be counted any Audi owners who have been happy with what they got when trying to sell. A1's will be a bargain a year or so from now
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          • #20
            Originally posted by gavs View Post
            I for one fail to see the point in keyless start, aka start buttons.
            It'd be great for manual stop/start.
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            • #21
              Here is something from Ausmotive. Has the option list and all. At first glance, I think it is actually possible to make this a $60k car!!!
              Last edited by way; 06-06-2011, 09:53 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by gavs View Post
                I for one fail to see the point in keyless start, aka start buttons. There is only one decent one in the market and that is Aston Martin's offerring which requires the key to be inserted into the beautiful crystal button to start the car as you depress it. How is a start button any better than a key? I just find it a tacky add-on that belongs in rice rockets, bogan chariots (Aka FPV) and I think that scourge of a motorsport that is like watching food in a microwave has a lot to answer for because of it. "Oh no, my fat, fried-chicken coated fingers can't grip the key to my f150 to turn it on so I can go enjoy the lie of my cousins...."
                You are missing the point. It's not just button, it's not having to use the key at all. You walk up to the car with the key in your handbag (if you are that way inclined hahaha) or in your pocket, and all you do is touch the door handle as part of your action to open the car door, and the door unlocks. Then you go into the car, you just have your foot on the brakes and press the button and the car starts, again without having to remove the key from your pocket. Aston's one is very different. With that you still need to slot the key into the car. That key looks ugly in my opinion anyway haha.

                Once you have it, it's damn inconvenient when you don't. It's the same as using the key to unlock the door vs having remote unlocking. Wish the Polo had it as an option.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by way View Post
                  Here is something from Ausmotive. Has the option list and all. At first glance, I think it is actually possible to make this a $60k car!!!
                  http://www.ausmotive.com/2011/06/06/...html#more-5051
                  Only $60k? Wow, that's pretty reasonable! Over the years it's been easy to make the Mini Cooper S a $70k+ and even $80k+ car.

                  The Audi S3 can be made a $100k+ car.

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                  • #24
                    the A1 has a wider wheelbase than the polo which might allow it to corner slightly better. interior wise, the A1 has better perceived quality. the seatbelts, the steering wheel, the dash, it all has an expensive feel to it.

                    that said, an equally spec'ed polo gti will be ~ 10k cheaper than this. come resale on the audi, how much of that 10k will be recouped is anybody's guess.

                    so, for $10k more, you get a couple of things (assuming the gti is spec'ed equally). the Audi badge [if its worth anything], higher cabin quality, a car that isn't as common, slightly more refinement [road noise is less in the audi, more dampening i'm guessing], a car with an origin somewhere in Europe and most importantly, a shorter wait time.
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                    • #25
                      [QUOTE=a car with an origin somewhere in Europe and most importantly, a shorter wait time.[/QUOTE]

                      last time I looked, Spain was part of Europe
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 77kw polo TSi View Post
                        Nice - but Audi have slipped up - I think the Polo is the better looking - especially inside - around the heater controls and ICE head unit - the Audi looks messy and cheap - the Polo looks superb - and has the ability to accept the RNS510...
                        sorry to drag up such an old thread but i sat in both today and whilst i appreciate you bought a polo and love your purchase i could not disagree more, the audi interior is nicer headunit controls and especially heater controls

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                        • #27
                          I went past an audi A1 a few weeks ago, i didn't like it.......
                          That huge corporate audi grill looks ugly on a such a small car and the rear end looked sad.....

                          I dont know why you would spend the extra money......

                          Based on list price alone Audi offers a 1.4 turbo attraction 3 door model for $29,990.....
                          For $1000 less than that you could have a POLO GTI..........Audi equivalent based on performance is $42,500...
                          I would take the GTI anyday.........
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                          • #28
                            driving the A1 will probably make you feel special though. to be absolutely honest, i've only seen 2 on the road the whole of this year. you're paying for exclusivity.
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                            • #29
                              The A1 is purely and simply a chicks car...you put a 6 ft + bloke in there he is going to look like a muppet...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hail22 View Post
                                The A1 is purely and simply a chicks car...you put a 6 ft + bloke in there he is going to look like a muppet...
                                Isn't that the same with the polo

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